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Big Jib & the Uni's

Post subject: Division by Division

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:29 pm

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Plucked from another forum, post by Peter Nelson
How did your Division do?
(are all the scores in yet and final?)

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In advance of the Hobie Div. 4 (NW) AGM, I thought it would be interesting to put together how the local sailors fared in their respective class. Not all the results are complete, but it was still a fun exercise.

So here are how the NW sailors are doing (please excuse the lack of tab spacing!)....

Div. 4 National Rankings

Skipper Crew
Tiger (37 entries)
4 Mark Jones Ingrid Gutzmann
6 Jerry Valeske Laney Gale
9 Don Atchley Shane Atchley

Hobie 18 (76 entries)
4 Bryan Colwell Mark Snyder
6 Paul Evenden Megan Dorwin
8 Ben Colwell Luke Summers
12 Tyler Barton Jen Loewen
15 Paul VonStubbe Lynch
20 Gillian Thomson Mark Williamson
25 Jim Wood Patsy Aplin
26 Jon Nilan
33 Randy Newton Seamus Woodward
38 Mark Sele Heather Sele

Hobie 17 (76 entries)
10 Scott Ruggles Daffy Duck
14 Dan Carpenter Monica Lewinski
15 Dave Wilder Babba Ram Das
22 Lonnie Byers Paris Hilton
23 Caleb Tarleton Mahatma Ghandi
30 Kelly Havig The Pope
31 Tom Tarleton Christine Gregoire
34 Paul Carter Howard Cosell
41 Jan Kristiansen Gummy Bear
50 Jonathan Cook
51 Mark Sele Howard Stern
54 Mike Collier Twiggy
56 Graham McGlashan Prince Charles
Hugh Barraclough The Mask
Eric Waissi

Hobie FX-1 (3 entries)
1 Mike Hensel

Hobie 16 (380 entries)
9 Peter Nelson Laura Sullivan
15 Todd Christensen Miki Ray
44 Kipp Silver Andrea Silver
47 Brian Hunt Clara Lum
52 Scot Chapman Karen Price
61 Jeremy Sexton Amy Sexton
63 J Rosenbach Will Nelson
68 Rich Arneson Miguel Arneson
83 Tim Post Monica Fetzer
112 Jeff Swanson Ling Zhang
126 Philip Carmichael J. Carmichael
129 Don Davey Laura Davey
163 Jim Pappin Jack Pappin
178 Tim Webb Ryan Damron
192 Gillian Thomson Martine Schlagenweit

Hobie Wave (9 entries)
1 Will Nelson
1 Daniel Tarleton
Max Robinson

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hobieokc

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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:22 pm

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Are there no 20's in your division? What's up with that?

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Karl Brogger

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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:09 pm

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20's are pretty much located in the midwest.

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hobieokc

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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:12 pm

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Karl, Look at all those 17's in the NW. If they convert to the FX, you are going to have to do some serious traveling, my friend. I noticed that there are NO 17's in your part of the country.

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Karl Brogger

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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:18 pm

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Not yet, I've got the only one so far. Gotta be optomistic! Not everyone wants to sail around on a 30 year old boat :shock:

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Sail Revolution

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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:45 pm

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Location: Santa Cruz

Also Div 3 has a fat 20 fleet!

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mike hensel

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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:15 pm

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Location: Seattle, Washington

Karl,
you should come out west and race with our two FX Ones, spend the summer. Then we would have three, unless of coarse we get a couple more before summer. The more the merrier.

Saddly no 20s racing here though. You either start with the 17s or the Tigers. I prefer starting with the Tigers. The Tigers are growing here also, I think that there are going to be at least three more than last year.

Spinakers coming down the coarse thats what I'm talkin about!

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mike hensel

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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:27 pm

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We have some pretty die hard 17 sailors in the Northwest. I wouldn't expect too many of those guys to convert. Heck they are soo good I had to move on to the Tiger from the H17. Got tired of being in the back half of the pack. LOL. :lol:

The alure of the FX got me off of the Tiger. Although I couldn't bear to sell it. Still have the Tiger. It will come in handy. There is always the Nationals in Harrison, BC and the F18 regattas here.

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Karl Brogger

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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:46 pm

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mike hensel wrote:

spend the summer.

Got any good sugar mama's out there for me? :lol:

That's about the only way I could make that work.

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BLR_0719

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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:56 pm

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Karl, I've been looking into the FX1... also the F16 and the N17... I just have a big problem finding people to sail the F18 with me. It's not like the 16 or 20, they actually have to know what theyre doing on the F18 (more than just taking instructions on when to pop and sheet the jib). F17's are fairly rare, F16 and FX1 are pretty pricey...I love the Tiger and I enjoy the F18 fleet in general...I just need someone to damn sail with.

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Karl Brogger

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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:27 pm

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Be the first in your area to get one. The FXone is in the same ballpark as the Tiger for pricing. You have to price out the options correctly. When I first looked at getting one I was ready to purchase a new one. I think with all the options and Tax I was facing an $18k price tag. But I was going to end up buying things that I didn't need, and now I wouldn't have wanted anyway. The two major things being the jib kit and the self-tacker setup for the jib. If you will be single handing the boat it doesn't make sense. I think the jib adds $1800, and the self tacker another 3-400. This is ballpark, I don't remember exactly what the cost were. I have wings and when I buy a new boat it will also have them, and the wings I have are about $1000. The spinnaker costs (I think) the same as the jib, so another $1800. An 08' boat list for around $13,500. But who actually pays full retail for something like this? A dealer quoted me $12,300 for a new boat. So a new one for me would be $15,100 + Tax. $1k less if you don't want wings.

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Karl Brogger

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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:30 pm

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Another thing to think about is this boat has kind of a goofy hull shape, so Hobie includes hull cradles for the trailer, and for cat-trax. That saves some money.

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BLR_0719

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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:31 pm

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1,800 for the jib?? That sounds crazy to me; I can't help but to think I'd just buy an entire older H16. Not having a crew is what stopped me from sailing in at least 3 regattas last season, that's why I've been looking at some single hand boats. Although I must say if it came down to it, I don't know if I could part with the Tiger or not

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Karl Brogger

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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:19 am

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It's the sail, rigging, furler, blocks, cleats, tracks and rivets. Like I said, unless you're going to have crew all the time it's just one more thing to do on boat that is fairly busy anyway. A new 16 with all the upgrades is about $8500 with no trailer.

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mike hensel

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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:49 am

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The jib kit was about 1400 and it came with the self tacker.
The spinnaker kit was the same price, including the spin.
Boat with main was 14,500, I didn't get the Jib.
Totals
14500
1400
15,900+tax(1351.50)=17,251.50

This is about $100 less than the Tiger. Plus you fet 6 real nice custom fitting craddles. Four on the trailor and two on the cat tracks.

This boat was ready out of the box. I just added a spin snuffer, the "SNU" by the way is great. And off I went.

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