Trapeze wire length

First time posting on the forum after many years of browsing and learning.
Setting up trapeze systems on a hobie 21 sc. Cannot find online how long the trapeze wires are supposed to be can anyone help me with the lengths.
The wings have been removed for racing so don't know if this would affect the standard lengths
Thanks
Thomas

Running trap without the wings will for sure change things - but since the 21SC and H18 use the same rigging just buy a set of 18 Trap wires and they'll be the correct length (19' long)

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Jacques Bernier
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I am in Barbados so it's not that easy as just buying a set of wires...so we are making them from scratch. We have two 21s and are going to race one with wings and one without to see the performance difference and go from there. Because of the ocean condition we have here and our race takes us up the south coast(big waves and 18-25 kt winds) I was finding the wings were burying in the swells and causing problems. Will see how it works and report back here

Ok so we raced today. The class was small with two 21sc and a prindle 19. The boat with the wings and trapeze won but only due to a bad call by me on a gybe early on in the race and was playing catch up for the rest of the course. We would have eventually caught them and were seconds apart at the finish. The prindle capsized and had to get outside assistance and dsq them from the race.
So what did we learn....
The boat without the wings is sailing alot faster. The winds were puffy and prob were around 25+kts on the gusts. Some were prob higher. Yesterday one boat had a gust at 39kts during a race.
I cut the first set of trial trap lines at 16'4"..way too short. Went back and cut another set at 17' 6"..still too short. I think just over 18' is going to be the right length.
Another race has been setup for next week so we will see if we can do better.

I would think sail condition and skipper skills would make a bigger difference than having th wings on. Especially in 25kt plus breeze. Maybe in light air the added weight would matter more.

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Scott
Hobie 18 w/wings
Hobie/Holder 12 Funseeker
2 Hobie Waves
Tandem Oasis Kayak
Hobie 16
Southern California

I have a 1984 H18. No wings. My new trap wires are 18’10” (approx. Measured while strapped to mast). I use micro adjustment system for crew wires. I have no room to adjust up. 19’ are too long. I’ll bet they would be correct for an SX with wings. Next season I’ll measure the handle-to-deck height. I really am not sure what that dimension should be, but guess 32”. Any one have advice here?

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Dan
H-18, H-16