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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:24 pm 
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Is it worth to buy it? Seems the price is a little bit high.
Any fellow members know when will they have promotion?

Thank in advance!


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:53 pm 
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This depends hugely on your needs. Do you need a boat that is relatively light and will fit in compact places?

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Do you need a boat that will launch anywhere?

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A boat that is very stable and you can scuba dive or swim off it?

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A boat that works well solo as well as tandem?

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Something with enough potential power to bring additional friends and family along?

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If it fits your needs then it is probably well worth it! 8)


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:11 pm 
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crappie wrote:
Is it worth to buy it? Seems the price is a little bit high.
Any fellow members know when will they have promotion?

You already have i11s and i9s, so why not buy just the i14t hull and save the huge price of second pair of new drives? You already kind of asked about that, but your posts are so short without explanation that the answers have had to be kind of blind stabs in the dark.

I would ensure with your dealer that you also get a roller bag and at least 1 rigid seat. For one tenth the price of a second rigid seat, you might try something informal like the SeaEagle deluxe inflatable kayak seat, which due to it reverse slope on back might accommodate a small 3rd passenger you have talked about back to back. You talked about pump so see if Hobie's is affordable or else look elsewhere for manual or electric pump (maybe incl battery). You could omit the Hobie paddles and use cheapo ones, but may have to wrap duct tape over the skinny shafts where they meet the wide clamps on the yak.

Actually I avoid buying redundant equipment for my 9 inflatable watercraft, but do have to be careful to not leave anything behind packed in the wrong bag. I make checklists of things needed before leaving, and try to keep shared items in a separate backpack that I always carry.

You have asked about a downwind sail... why not get the Hobie inflatable sailkit which will turn both your i9s and i14t into proper upwind sailboats? You talked about pedaling with beach cart wheels attached, and other things that indicate you have unusual needs you aren't telling us about. So we just have to list all these probably dead-on-arrival alternatives. Here's another: only Hobie discount I have heard of is for earlier year or demo models, which is probably rare for i14t.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:46 am 
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Thanks for the informations you provided and I sold the i9s already.
I am very satisfy with the i11s I have right now.
For the i14t I am still thinking to buy or not because of the price.

Thanks again


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:45 pm 
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crappie wrote:
For the i14t I am still thinking to buy or not because of the price.

Since I am similarly trying to add an i11s to my Hobie lineup cheaply, here go my last brainstorms. 1) USED? Didn't there used to be shopping bots that you could point at ebay or something for months at a time to find a particular item? I passed on some that wanted to customize my browser long ago. Anyway, it can be scary to take the risk of a possibly abused inflatable without warrantee and high shipping cost, but maybe some worthwhile bargain at end of summer?

2) Just a HULL-ONLY from Hobie. In my case, I would share all my i12s accessories except roller bag. I might use the original plastic wrap and put it on a tiny handcart or even a roller suitcase with 2 sides cut out. I hope to throw i11s hull over my head to carry over guardrails and steep beach dunes rather than roll much anyway.

In your case, why not also start with only your i11s accessories? Put your one seat and mirage drive in the i14s and let the passenger(s) paddle or just sit and ride. Without the 2nd mirage drive there is more freedom for 3 people to find a place to sit. If your passengers don't tire of kayaking after a few trips (like most of them do) then in a few months you can probably buy a used legacy drive cheap when the early adopters are trading up (Hobie won't sell them separate yet). You would probably miss a roller bag for the huge hull, but maybe use the i11s one with the flap for one side left open so the bigger hull could strap over the wheels. Or else use the shipping plastic over a foldable handcart.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:45 am 
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If two people peddle the drive at the same time, will it be double the speed?
Thanks!


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:24 am 
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That's a good question. Unfortunately the answer is no. As a rough general rule, doubling your power adds about 1 kt of speed, but with the extra weight and drag of a second person and Mirage Drive, you would probably be looking at half that. This is because drag increases much faster than speed. If you're interested, here is an article on the topic. Toward the end there are some examples of speed and power required for a couple of different kayaks. Also note, whereas shorter, fatter kayaks are slower at higher power levels, this does not hold true at lower power levels. 8)
http://www.keelhauler.org/khcc/seakayak.htm


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:36 am 
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Hello everyone, my name is Alex. Recently a childhood friend invited me to celebrate his birthday on the river bank, we went with tents for a few days. He also had a kayak in the trailer for 2 seats and I suddenly liked very much to boat on it. so I want to buy myself one too and start regularly. So do you have any suggestions which to pick? I`m looking for more information and reviews now.
TY in advance.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:22 am 
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Hi Alex and welcome to the forum. The best boat for you depends on many factors -- more info would be helpful. Each boat has plusses and minuses. For instance, inflatables are best for those who have limited space, need light weight or want to travel with their boat. The i-9 is like a little pocket boat; the i-12 is excellent for carrying extra gear like scuba equipment; the i-14 is best for 2 people.

If you like to fish, you might look at a Pro Angler or Outback; If you want something small and light and are not tall, the Sport is a great option. For a great relatively light but responsive boat I like the Revolution 11. The Revolution 13 is an excellent all around boat including sailing, whereas the Revolution 16 is fastest, smoothest and best in heavier chop and swell. The Oasis is very versatile (solo or tandem) and capable -- one of my favorites. The new Compass is a value leader and excellent for general use or fishing, but not sailing.

So your size, intended use and transport / storage considerations will help whittle down the field! 8)


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