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Author: | vagabond [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Hobie i12s new owner reviews? |
Anyone out there with a new i12s, what are your thoughts on the boat? How have you used it, in what kind of conditions? Just looking for some comments by actual owners. |
Author: | Tasman [ Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: i14T |
G/Day Joe Joseph Thompson wrote: We experienced some damage to the canvas trunk (and the boat) on the trip down to PR, and in general, the packing case is the only element of the i14T package I found inadequately designed and built. The material is simply too flimsy for a bag that is guaranteed by it's size to get beat up by baggage handling equipment.
Joe What a great review, much of it bears out what I have experienced with the i12. Great fun boats and well built. I also had a problem with the bag, when the dealer picked it up in the show room by the shoulder strap the strap ripped out at the corner Hobie replaced the bag with no questions asked, but it is the one area that needs more work. Due to its large size in both models, I have suggested more handles for starters, and your suggestion for corner reinforcement is a good one. However that being said I would not have any other boat - well maybe an i14 to keep the i12 company Regards Tasman |
Author: | klock55 [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | New i12s |
I just picked up my new inflatable and can't wait to get it in the water after reading all the great reviews. I already have a sail boat, but am thinking about getting the sail for the i12s. Is it worth putting a sail on it? Ken |
Author: | klock55 [ Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Thanks Roadrunner, I purchased the i12s. |
I guess I will go ahead and order a sail for the i12s. As you said, it would be nice to have some aux power on a long trip. This is my first kayak, I have cruised and raced sailboats for over 30 years, so I will try not to be too critical of my yak with a sail. Ken |
Author: | Joseph Thompson [ Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:20 am ] |
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You'll enjoy it. The directions we got with our kit were quite generic, however, and seemed written for the hard hulls. (I have a hunch Hobie hasn't quite gotten around to writing a specific instruction manual for the inflatable sail kit, not that it's very complex.) There are three lines on the inflatables, plus the bungee downhaul. The glossy photograph in the '08 Hobie catalogue is actually far more helpful in getting the rigging set up properly than the instructions themselves (though in the catalogue photo, they only have only two of the three lines rigged up, making for a slicker promotional shot...). We found we needed to shorten the three rigging lines by about 3" each, or else the mast would bend way, way over in any winds over 5 or 6 knots. But after a bit of tweaking, we found the sail to be a lot of fun, and in the right conditions, it can take a load off your legs, extending range considerably. As Roadrunner notes, you won't be setting any speed records, but it handles better than you might expect. Spring for the big rudder while you're at it. |
Author: | klock55 [ Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Thanks for the information. |
I noticed the missing stay in the picture in the 08 brochure also. I did get the larger rudder and hope to have the sail next week. One good thing about having stays, you can ajust the Mast to get rid of any weatherhelm. Be safe and have a great Spring. Ken |
Author: | Roadrunner [ Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thanks for the information. |
klock55 wrote: One good thing about having stays, you can adjust the Mast to get rid of any weather helm.
Definitely! Raking the mast forward (on the i12) makes a good improvement. It would also be nice to rig some quick adjustments for the stays for different temperatures and conditions, since inflation pressure has some bearing on the issue. |
Author: | stringy [ Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:47 am ] |
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G'Day Joseph, Enjoyed reading your review and the fantastic pictures. Talk about extremes! Ice flows are something we'll never experience here- unless we get blown to Antarctica I had no idea where Vieques was so I googled it. What a great looking place. It's great to see the whole family having fun with the kayak. I'm glad the Tandem inflatable is proving to be as versatile as the other tandems. Actually- it could be the most versatile in the range with the advantage of portability. Thanks for sharing. |
Author: | ewagman [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:10 am ] |
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I took my first sail with my i12 this weekend. I purposely used the standard rudder and fins to help evaluate the sail rig balance adjustment. The mast rigging lines are long enough to allow adjustment, adjusting is a bit clumsy on the water, I may add. Something other than moving knots would be an improvement. I found the best balance to be with the mast racked forward with minimal slack in the side shrouds. Even so, there was plenty of weather helm, with a tendency to round up and nearly tack with any kind of a gust. I needed to pedal occasionally to retain some steerage. The kayak has incredible heeling stability along with great visibility. I ran the sheet through the triangular rear ring and then up the right side. The leech and foot tension was about equal with this angle of the sheet. Sheeting out was most effective by pushing the sail out, too much friction for the light wind to push the sail out by simply easing the sheet. A small block at the stern would be a nice addition, I have some old Harkin keychain blocks that I will use. I have some concern with the headstay tension on the forward attachment ring, there is a lot of pull on that ring when going upwind, I hope it holds up without tearing out. I plan to change to the sailing rudder next time, and possibly install the turbo fins also. BTW, this is my first kayak, I've never been in any kayak until this year. I have owned, sailed, & raced Sunfish, Lasers, Laser 2's, DN iceboats, Windsurfers, and an S2 9.1 for decades. A lot of other people on the water and ashore were asking questions and making favorable comments about this kayak, once I got it inflated and in the water. Someone else was inflating a sevlor kayak while I was pumping mine up, and I think the other kayakers and canoers figured the Hobie to be similar. They changed their mind after I pedaled past them (before rigging the sail). I went back in and then had a 115 lb. 5'4" girlfriend onboard, riding in back, we were able to switch positions several times on the water, great stability, and a good straight ride, the bow was up some, but not too bad even when I was in back. I'm 6', 190 lbs. All we had to do was adjust the pedal position, took less than a minute. The biggest challenge was getting it back in the bag at the end of the day. I love this kayak!!!!!!!!!!! |
Author: | hlalibe [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hobie i12s new owner reviews? |
i live in Switzerland and got my I12s for a month now, this kayak is really great ! I was going to buy a regular paddle kayak and found the Hobie Mirage drive by coincidence. I'm really happy i bought this type of kayak, i think i would not have used a regular one that much. I tried paddling but i can't go on like this for hours and miles like i do with the Mirage drive, simply no comparison. With my GPS I record all my trips and save them in Google Earth. You can ride at 6 km/hour for many hours without much pain in the legs, at 4 km/hour you can ride all day i think. I got the sail too and i was nicely surprised ! This boat can sail quite close to the wind. I've got the turbo fins but the regular rudder. In stronger wind i pedal a bit to better keep my line, 45, sometimes 30 degrees to the wind. You can also sail on very small wind or patchy winds on a small lake. Instead of waiting for the wind to come to you, you pedal to go and catch it. Try doing that with a laser ! Then when the wind is down you just pedal nicely and enjoy the shore line watching the birds or the sunset. This boat is quite solid too. The only thing i broke is the rope attaching the sail in front, not sure how i did that. But i replaced them and doubled each line. By twisting the lines together i can add more tension too, it's a nice fine tuning. I also enjoyed riding some good waves with it, just pedal to meet the next wave and ride with it, quite cool. I recommend the weel cart, i use it most if the time to get the boat in the water. You can inflate your boat on the nearby grass and roll it in. What else can i say ? Very stable too, i think there is no worry to go out all year even in cold water (maybe not sailing in strong wind). The risk of falling in the water on a calm lake is probably smaller than the risk you take driving your car every morning to work so...Although i wonder how the kayak folds up in cold weather. Anyone experienced that so far ? Do you store your kayak inflated or folded during winter ? ok, enough now, people will think i'm sponsored by Hobie ! |
Author: | hlalibe [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:44 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hobie i12s new owner reviews? |
Hi everybody, just wanted to give a short feed-back on my i12s after the third season out: I'm very satified with the quality of the materials used. I bought it in 2008 and it still looks great. No change of color, no cracks, no sign of deterioration. Just a few small surface wrinkles where the boat folds, but nothing to worry and when inflated they're almost invisible. The kids use it a lot too, they go out 4 of them, stand on it, jump, they give it the rough test, but everything is holding on. Nothing broken. My wife is using it too. I'm really, really satisfied with this boat. The only problem i had is when i sailed in a little too strong winds and i broke the ropes holding the sail. Actually the crimp failed. So i just changed the ropes and used no crimps at all. great boat ! great quality ! definitely worth the price ! Hugues from Switzerland |
Author: | Roadrunner [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hobie i12s new owner reviews? |
Hugues, thanks for the excellent long term feedback! |
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