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Author:  chrisj [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Rear seat for sailing AI.

I've been intrigued by Gwiz's post that he likes to sit up out of the seat, on a pool noodle in front of the rear crossbar. I've tried it (without the noodle) and it really is a great place to sit. You can turn around and you can lean out over the aka. I enjoy it more than hiking out on the tramps. I was also out with a friend recently, with me kneeling in the rear cargo well. The boat sat low in the water and was clearly slower, until we found ourselves running before a stiff breeze, with lots of wind waves - normally bow-burying territory. The boat performed better than I have ever known it to in those conditions, because the bow was pointing so high. It got me wondering if shifting one's weight to the back mightn't be a good tactic. I found that sitting directly on the crossbar is fun, but you quickly get a numb bum. I've rigged up a platform with PVC pipe and it is fairly comfortable.
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Then I tried fitting my trusty Ocean Kayak seat and it was even better.
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Needless to say, you can't pedal from that position, but I have no trouble steering with my makeshift tiller extension. I haven't yet encountered any windy, wavy conditions to see how effective shifting my weight that far back is, but for general sailing, it is a buzz. I may extend the platform so I can sit even further back.

Author:  stringy [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:51 pm ]
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Nice work Chris! 8)

Author:  mickeymouse [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:53 pm ]
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Nice one Chris. :wink: Looks very comfortable - I like the high seat position. Probably not suitable for all conditions but would be great downwind 8) :)

Author:  KayakingBob [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:57 pm ]
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I've sat on my cooler behind the seat while fishing, and on my ditch/equipment bag when sailing down wind in moderate wind and it helped pull up the nose a few inches. But Chris, your seat looks much more comfy!

Author:  chrisj [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rear seat for sailing.

Mickey, I like it at all points of sail. It just feels more like a sailing boat. (I've been influenced by racing a Maricat lately).

Author:  mickeymouse [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:38 am ]
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chrisj wrote:
Mickey, I like it at all points of sail. It just feels more like a sailing boat. (I've been influenced by racing a Maricat lately).

Chris - very interesting 8) :wink:

Author:  stringy [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:07 pm ]
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chrisj wrote:
It just feels more like a sailing boat. (I've been influenced by racing a Maricat lately).


Chris,
It'll feel even more like a sailing boat if you pull the drive and put the plug in! :wink: :)

Author:  chrisj [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:42 pm ]
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stringy wrote:
Chris,
It'll feel even more like a sailing boat if you pull the drive and put the plug in! :wink: :)

Yeah, yeah, I'm convinced. There's not much point leaving the drive in if you can't reach the pedals.

Author:  bikercraig [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:17 am ]
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I believe I'll try that myself however I'd like to see a pic of how you have your tiller extension attached.

Author:  chrisj [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:51 am ]
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No problem :wink:
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Author:  Slaughter [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:45 pm ]
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Good mod Chris. This would be really good, especially on long hauls where I find I get a bit uncomfortable sitting in the one spot for too long. So after seing your setup I had a brainwave...............

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I bought 2 of these from Aldi the other week, $6 each. Plastic, no metal parts and fold away so I thought they would be good to take away on trips. And now, after seing your post, they now have another use. Thanks mate.

As far as changing your seating position, I also like to lay down by putting my feet up on the front crossbar, arse on the central hatch and neck on the top of the back of the seat. Really comfortable especially in a gentle breeze on a sunny day. In fact a bit too comfortable as I have been known to have a micro sleep that was a bit longer than micro. Scary stuff. If you are ever tempted to try this, may I suggest also taking an alarm clock.

Author:  chrisj [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rear seat for sailing.

Aldi does it again! Simple and neat mate. 8) Cheaper too - mine cost $27 for the fittings.
Here's Mark II of my setup (named in honour of Stringy):

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The i-comfort seat is very comfy and I can lean back far enough to rest my hand or even my elbow on the rear hatch.
Come to think of it, a rear seat could be useful for those people who want to paddle with the tramps fitted too.
With this sudden interest in rear seats, do you think we might be suffering from TI-nis envy?
Why don't you bring your seat along on our next outing and we can compare notes out on the water :)

Author:  Slaughter [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rear seat for sailing.

How i-comphy does that look ? Sounds good. Once the JB trip is out of the way I'd really like to do that Terrigal / Maitland Bay trip. We spoke about it before and about doing the car shuffle but is there any reason why we couldn't do Terrigal to Maitland Bay and return in the one day ?

Author:  chrisj [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:54 pm ]
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Well Stringy and I did Patonga to Maitland Bay and back last year and that's about the same distance.

Author:  stringy [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:11 am ]
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I feel very honoured Chris! :)
You've got good value out of that PVC tube! I like the paddling idea with the tramps fitted. 8)

Slaughter,
What's going on? Your pics have been deleted. :(

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