THE HAKA BENCH SEAT - AN ALTERNATIVE TO TRAMPS

Capt Chaos,
Help me create the raka for the tandem! Placed around the rear crossbar would be a great place to drive from solo and still allow slipping into the back seat for a downwind sleigh ride. I would probably even pedal from the raka as the legs would reach. I could even get one of the those comfy bean chairs and ride in real comfort.

Bosab

I am confused... if placed around the rear crossbar on a TI it would be over the rear pedals. Are you talking about adding a further crossbar behind the rear seat? Wouldn't that place your weigh too far back if soloing?

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Tony Stott
2012 Tandem Island "SIC EM" with Hobie spinnaker

Sure, I'd be glad to help you make a Raka for your TI Charley. It would be an interesting project.

The Raka would sit over the rear Mirage drive, but I guess that wouldn't matter if you were soloing from the front seat. The two problems to be overcome are getting around the backward-facing diagonal braces and finding a way to anchor the Raka down so you can hike out. I would be inclined to disconnect the aka braces, use the brace's ball fitting as an anchor and tie the aka to the Raka in some way, so that it becomes the brace.

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Behind the front seat it's gonna interfere with the rear mirage drive, I would think.

We played around with the rear batwing idea on the TI too, and came up with the "TI3".



Bosab, you can't really pedal from the alternate seating, but you can steer with your toes. It's a lot of fun.

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The Wind Is Your Friend...

Looking good Chris!

NOHUHU, with those 4 hakas, your have the makings of a serious tent platform.

Keith

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2015 AI 2, 2014 Tandem

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex ... It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." A. Einstein

"Less is more" Anon

Surely. But unlike you, we have no camping venues where it could be properly used... except as ground platform. (We envy you folks who can do extended trips).



Then again - if one wanted to make a really cheap houseboat...

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The Wind Is Your Friend...

This is amazing. It's the first Hobie Island that seats 6 . You can take the whole family with that setup (including the dog).

You should make one set of long hakas. That would look awesome. I predict Hobie will be selling Hakas with their product line in the future. So much more practical than tramps.

And everytime I see pictures of you sailing in Hawaii, I envy you guys. I would love to sail an AI in Hawaii someday.

Captain Jim... Come on down!

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Hobie Island Sailing since 2006

We toyed with the long bench idea, even before the 3rd set of Akas were added. You have to consider how your going to transport them too, if they get to be 10-12' each.

Interlocking modules would have worked pretty good, but this seating is my favorite because it makes it easier/quicker for the sheetman to transfer off the front seat, and then anywhere on the boat including extreme trapeze-like positions. The pilot likes having them closer in the back and doesn't need to hike out as far in that position.

We'll probably go with this config this weekend.

Free TI3 rides if you're in the area!!

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The Wind Is Your Friend...

I just realised, while fiddling with my Haka/Raka, if you straddle the gunwales with 2 pieces of 4"x2", one behind the front crossbar and one in front of the rear crossbar, you can lay the Hakas on them, over the main hull, and clear the cleats on the front crossbar and the diagonal braces at the rear (AI). That means you can pitch a bivvy, or whatever, and stay level and high and dry.

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Thanks for all the ideas. Those that know me understand how I can just about peddle the front drive from the rear seat. Sitting right over the rear aka bar is just about a perfect peddle location for me. Except for head end hitting the sail as you tack.

The first B in BOSAB stands for big. Ain't sharing the rest!

Understood. You need room to stretch out. I got long legs and just can't sit in one place for long.

I'll be interested in hearing from Chris how he likes the new outboard wing seating and the difference it makes when trimming the boat.

Maybe he'll get that thing to plane on a hard reach.

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The Wind Is Your Friend...

Yeah, I'm keen to compare it in Batwing mode with Haka mode. (I know it's not shaped like a Batwing, but I painted it black to compensate.) If there's no great advantage in sitting further forward when hiking out, I may trim it back to about 4' long. That would leave about 13" overhang on each side, which is plenty. Do you find yourself tending more toward the front or the back of the Haka NOHUHU?

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