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 Post subject: Carrying Aspirin
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:01 pm 
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I had assumed that my med kit on my TI was properly stocked for a weekly sojourn. Apparently not so.

I was playing golf recently when one of our party seemed to be having a heart attack. I realized that I did not have any aspirin in my bag, nor did anyone else that I asked. Back to the pro shop. None. Club house. none. I tore into my med kit in the car. None. Back home to my garage and into the kayak kit. NONE!! A handful of low dose bits were finally called into play for a possible a false alert.

I headed out to the local CVS and bought a handful of aspirin containers today. Chew one 325 mg aspiring in case of a heart attack. It will NOT taste good.


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 Post subject: Re: Carrying Aspirin
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:42 pm 
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Good advice, Bob.

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 Post subject: Re: Carrying Aspirin
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:43 pm 
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My first aid kit even also contains enough morphine to cover a 24 hour period. I would rather be "'overstocked" than face the scenario Bob mentions.

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 Post subject: Re: Carrying Aspirin
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:57 pm 
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Thanks for a timely reminder. Mini aspirin are in my car, bathroom and wallet but you have reminded me, they are not in my TI emergency kit.

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 Post subject: Re: Carrying Aspirin
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:10 pm 
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Chewable aspirin is available for such use. In the event of a suspected heart attack always give or take at least four 81mg chewable aspirin tablets as quickly as possible. They should be in every first aid kit.


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 Post subject: Re: Carrying Aspirin
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:20 am 
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This is an interesting point, Pro10is.

I specifically asked the pharmacist about the 4 smaller chewable vs 1 regular since the chewable would be easier to swallow. She thought the buffering/taste additives for the multiple smaller aspirin would be detrimental.

I find that there is research to support your point, however. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chewable-as ... the-heart/

That study is the only one that I can find and it is a pretty small sample size but I find nothing that contradicts it.

Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Carrying Aspirin
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:18 am 
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pro10is wrote:
In the event of a suspected heart attack always give or take at least four 81mg chewable aspirin tablets as quickly as possible.

Thanks, I didn't even know that, even tho I take the preventative daily lo-dose. An expired bottle is going directly into my console (found an article saying aspirin loses little effectiveness after expiry date).

Most of aspirin side effects are amazingly positive except for one I have noticed. If you take a full dose, the same anticoagulant effect you are striving for in the heart can make minor cuts bleed on and on before sealing up. Minor cuts abound when I kayak sail, so I don't take em without need then.

Aspirin is acetyl-salicylic acid which apparently turns into just salicylic acid inside your body - the same acid used to burn off warts! But it's all good, and typical stomach settling medicines and even dandruff shampoos are based on that.

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 Post subject: Re: Carrying Aspirin
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:08 am 
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daft wrote:
...Most of aspirin side effects are amazingly positive except for one I have noticed. If you take a full dose, the same anticoagulant effect you are striving for in the heart can make minor cuts bleed on and on before sealing up. Minor cuts abound when I kayak sail, so I don't take em without need then...

Yes, small cuts that don't quickly stop bleeding are an indication that the aspirin is working as intended as an effective anticoagulant and is protecting your heart. It's a minor inconvenience and far, far better than having a heart attack.

Many studies indicate that taking an 81mg aspirin daily along with two 1200mg fish oil tablets can prevent many heart attacks and save many lives. Of course, always check with your doctor first.


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 Post subject: Re: Carrying Aspirin
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:27 am 
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BobAgain wrote:
This is an interesting point, Pro10is.

I specifically asked the pharmacist about the 4 smaller chewable vs 1 regular since the chewable would be easier to swallow. She thought the buffering/taste additives for the multiple smaller aspirin would be detrimental.

I find that there is research to support your point, however. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chewable-as ... the-heart/

That study is the only one that I can find and it is a pretty small sample size but I find nothing that contradicts it.

Thanks!

Your pharmacist had a good point, you don't want any buffering additives that may hinder quick absorption of the aspirin in the case of a heart attack. Buffering additives reduce stomach irritation which is the least of your problems if you're having a heart attack. Before you buy look at both the active and inactive ingredients for magnesium carbonate, calcium carbonate and/or magnesium oxide. These are typical buffering agents. You also don't want any enteric coated aspirin which will significantly delay the absorption of aspirin if swallowed whole.

Fortunately most chewable aspirin does not contain these ingredients. I don't believe flavoring will cause any significant absorption issues.


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 Post subject: Re: Carrying Aspirin
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:01 pm 
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pro10is wrote:
You also don't want any enteric coated aspirin which will significantly delay the absorption of aspirin if swallowed whole.

Coating is very common in non-chewable aspirin to prevent even minor stomach pains. Instead of reading fine print to ascertain this out in the field, I would just bite the tablet before swallowing.

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Many studies indicate that taking an 81mg aspirin daily along with two 1200mg fish oil tablets can prevent many heart attacks and save many lives.

Here you must be referring to omega3. Thanks; I never paid attention to it's anti-coag side effects, but rather for it's main purpose of being maybe the most important supplement for eyes, brains, etc.

Anyway I have watched various omega 3 lectures with following claims... 1) some studies show 90% of fish oil caplets are rancid and may contain heavy metals or whatever the fish vacuum up and concentrate. 2) Better to go to their source such as algae tablets processed for omega3. 3) Maybe better to eat certain nuts which have the most omega 3 among conventional foods (but not very much). 4) Best natural dose is from ground flax seed, but an elderly doctor lecturer warned that an overdose would make his arms spontaneously bleed. 5) Should avoid omega 6 which blocks omega3 receptors, and is super common in modern diets.

Bottom line is I never found algae tablets to make a difference in life like aspirin did. I forced walnuts down, but now found they are also laden with omega 6. One source sez macadamia nuts are the least bad (worse ratio, but lower absolute amount of o6), so I may dabble with them on and off.

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 Post subject: Re: Carrying Aspirin
PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:42 am 
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I had to chew regular aspirin several years ago when I had a stroke. Trust me, when you are having a life threatening event the bitterness of aspirin is insignificant. In all of my detailed memories of that event, I cannot remember the taste of the aspirin, just the texture of pill breaking apart in my teeth and tounge and then swallowing. I bought a package of zip lock pill bags from Wal-Mart, label each bag and place them in my first aid kits.

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