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 Post subject: Maine Island Trail
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:49 pm 
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I've joined the Maine Island Trail Association and am now starting to plan my TI exploration for this August/September. I'll be doing it in stages - park somewhere and head a few days north/a few days south and then back.

Any words of wisdom?

I'll also be taking the TI up to Nova Scotia to explore the Bras D'Or. Anyone ever cross the US/Canada border with their boat?
I'll be doing a thorough clean before heading north from Florida but I wonder what other prep I'll need to do.


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 Post subject: Re: Maine Island Trail
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:20 am 
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Wow, Bob, that is going to be an adventure! 1. Have good charts of the area. Have a good chart on your GPS if possible. 2. There are rocks and boulders everywhere, above and below water. Be careful. 3. Lobster fishermen--kayaks and Islands are speed bumps to them. Their boats have very high bows--they literally can not see you when you are directly in front of them. Stay out of their path. 4. Water temps probably about 55 deg. Not too bad, but a dry suit would be smart. 5. Absolutely keep your tent poles dry or they will freeze up. 5. Mussels and clams can make for some good eating along the way. You will sometimes see clam diggers working on shore. They will usually give you a good deal on a bucket of clams. 6. Old Quarry Ocean Adventures near Stonington is a good place to camp and launch from. http://www.oldquarry.com/

Good luck!

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PS Write your adventures up on my "Expeditions" thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Maine Island Trail
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:00 pm 
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Chekika wrote:
Lobster fishermen--kayaks and Islands are speed bumps to them. Their boats have very high bows--they literally can not see you when you are directly in front of them. Stay out of their path.

Maybe avoid clusters of lobster buoys. Not only out of collision danger, or the deafening noise of unmuffled engines on a calm day, but there can be misplaced hostility. A nearby lobsterboat hurled a hammer at our lobsterboat for some real or imagined offense of our captain. There are simmering territorial disputes and always rumors that some tourist in such and such color boat was seen pulling traps.

On the bright side, I guess you are missing the ferocious bug season. It sounds like they have relocated a ferry I have used elsewhere to make fast runs between Maine and Nova Scotia. Start off claiming one of the few open air seats on the stern to watch the coast recede. Maybe a prohibitive charge for a trailer, which anyway may dance into close parked cars in rough seas..

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 Post subject: Re: Maine Island Trail
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:08 pm 
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Chekika wrote:
Wow, Bob, that is going to be an adventure! 1. Have good charts of the area. Have a good chart on your GPS if possible. 2. There are rocks and boulders everywhere, above and below water. Be careful. 3. Lobster fishermen--kayaks and Islands are speed bumps to them. Their boats have very high bows--they literally can not see you when you are directly in front of them. Stay out of their path. 4. Water temps probably about 55 deg. Not too bad, but a dry suit would be smart. 5. Absolutely keep your tent poles dry or they will freeze up. 5. Mussels and clams can make for some good eating along the way. You will sometimes see clam diggers working on shore. They will usually give you a good deal on a bucket of clams. 6. Old Quarry Ocean Adventures near Stonington is a good place to camp and launch from. http://www.oldquarry.com/

Good luck!

Keith

PS Write your adventures up on my "Expeditions" thread.


Thanks, Keith. I plan to take LOTS of photos. MITA has an app that I'm working to download onto my computer in order to work from a bigger screen - gonna put it on my phone, too, for general help while I'm sailing.

The large tidal changes have me wondering about how to anchor and beach the boat for the night. Rocky shores will be a new adventure.

The Moss tent will be just the thing for a nice snug sleep. THanks!!


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 Post subject: Re: Maine Island Trail
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:57 pm 
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There are some protected sandy coves among the boulders and beaches on the islands, but, you may be getting up in the middle of the night to move your boat higher. Carry long bow lines and a good anchor.

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 Post subject: Re: Maine Island Trail
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:24 am 
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I'll indulge a few more memories and leave it to others to see if relevant. I did a Univ. research project riding along with ME lobstermen to evaluate success of trap innovations. One topic of matter of fact discussion was how to torture and kill an outsider stealing from their traps. I don't have much pity for thieves, but disturbing to hear such fantasies being savored. Some pockets of the wiggly coast left lobstermen hemmed in by competitors and a bit desperate.

If you are facing the drive or ferry decision between ME and NS... as a kid I found the land route thru New Brunswick numbing. Actually our family almost exclusively vacationed in NB during my youth where I was very bored. The main roads we took seemed to showcase flat swampy areas rather than dramatic coasts. I didn't realize the rustic Bay of Fundy was then packed with USSR nuke subs during the cold war (and now?) aimed pre-emptively at northern US bomber and missile bases and our home.

I took the Portland to Yarmouth ferry when they had a slow comfy ship. Now it does use the fast spartan boat I have used elsewhere. Notice the open vehicle deck on the bow - a place to avoid due to salt spray. My last trip they put me on the bow only second to the CEO's car, but that was on a lower enclosed deck. So I guess early boarders are put in protected areas for low cg. The space between cars side to side is very tight. We had almost no food or drink service, apparently now improved but I would bring a picnic. Can't see much thru salt stained windows except at the highly contested outside seats on the stern. Only really happy folks were those with laptops with extension cords and onboard media rather than streaming. Maybe ferry in one direction and drive the other.

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 Post subject: Re: Maine Island Trail
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:35 pm 
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Hi Bob, I have some experience in that neck of the woods. Contact me by email.

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 Post subject: Re: Maine Island Trail
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:36 am 
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Chekika wrote:
5. Absolutely keep your tent poles dry or they will freeze up. [/url]

Hi Keith,
This doesn't relate to camping in summer (end of July) does it? Somebody else suggested (offline) to completely cover tents in 4 mil plastic which I don't understand. Maybe I've been living in Florida too long.

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 Post subject: Re: Maine Island Trail
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:01 am 
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When we did our sea kayak camping up there, I got the poles slightly wet with sea water. Brought them back to Miami, left them extended, and the next time I went to use them they were corroded and "frozen" together. After that, I simply learned to keep them dry, AND, don't leave them extended.

No, if you have a good tent, no need to put any plastic over it.

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 Post subject: Re: Maine Island Trail
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:43 pm 
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Well Bob and Jim got to see it up here for real! Word has it that Bob rented a joint in Belfast for a month!! We're gonna sail on Saturday again with him and will give a Proof of life pic!!

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 Post subject: Re: Maine Island Trail
PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:18 pm 
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We fell in love with Maine and were glad we dragged our TI 4000 plus miles to do some sailing there. This is now my favorite place in the US outside of Florida.

It was great meeting Bryan and his wife Darla and Doug and Richard. There really is something special about people who own Islands. It's not every day you can sail with (Bryan) F16 pilots : ) Bob, Sue, my wife Yvonne and I had the pleasure of sailing with this group who had local knowledge of the area. That made it fun as well as educational, especially with the large tides and rocky areas. I didn't get too many pictures but here's a few I'll share.

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Bryan, Darla and Bob and Sue
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Doug - His car broke down here on his way to Canada 40 years ago and he never left
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Lobster boats, lobster traps and Lobster restaurants everywhere
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Getting the TI ready
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Lunch time
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Bob watching his TI start to float with the fast incoming tide
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Charging unit (solar) discussion to power electronics on the TI
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Beautiful

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 Post subject: Re: Maine Island Trail
PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:28 pm 
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Hey, that looks like great fun. Reminds me of when we were there about 20 yrs ago...sea kayaking, of course.

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 Post subject: Re: Maine Island Trail
PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:37 pm 
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Reminiscing about Maine

We did a couple trips to Maine…wonderful trips. They were our first “cold water” paddling. Their purpose was to prepare us for kayaking in Alaska. The water temperature in Maine those summers was about 55 deg F. While that was cool for us, it really did not prepare us for Alaska where the water temperatures were more like 37-39 deg F. Never the less, we loved Maine. Here are a few pictures.

Out of Stonington

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Nancy doing a little cooking on the “beach.”

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We were always on the lookout for mollusks from the sea.

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Back at Stonington, I’m about to cook a lobster…

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Can you believe it, that was about 17 yrs ago!!!

Keith

PS @ Bob Smith--Bob, if you are reading this, do you recognize your tent in that last picture?

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 Post subject: Re: Maine Island Trail
PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:32 am 
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Nice Pictures Keith ! It's amazing how quickly time flies. Bob told me he was in Stonington last week at the place where you camped. Yesterday he got back from camping on one of the islands and had an interesting time. It was actually pretty close to where you and Nancy were camping by Stonington. Here's a recap of Bob's Maine island camping adventure:

"I sailed from Belfast out to Butter Island on Wednesday. The wind was blowing about 15 to 20 miles an hour once I got out there

Butter Island was a fantastic place to Camp. I stayed two nights. My initial plan was to continue on to Merchants row but because my phone drowned I had to come back to Belfast to replace it. I'm planning to go back out again tomorrow.
It took me seven and a half hours of beating up wind to sail from Belfast to butter. My Lowrance said I went 17 miles but I don't think it's counting all of the vertical up and down of the waves. Personally I believe that I sailed about 40 miles.

Even sailing back yesterday pushed off about 10:45 and there was almost no wind. I was making about 2 miles an hour until I got closer to the Northern end of islesboro. At that point when I came around the point the Southwest wind blowing up Penobscot Bay was probably turning another 2 to 4 foot set of waves and 15 mile an hour winds or more - there were white caps.

Yes I did use my motor both days on the way there I had the motor on I was pedaling and the sail of course. I was also hugging the side of islesboro in order to try and stay out of the wind as much as I could until I made the Crossing from islesboro over to the islands. That night I was so tired I could barely struggle up the beach but there were four kayak campers who were also there and came down to helped me.

Ironically I ended up taking the amas off the boat for the first time so that I could carry them up above the high-water line. I used my beach Wheels underneath the Hull after I pumped out what seemed like gallon after gallon of water. The beach at Orchard Beach is quite steep towards the top.

The other Beach and camping area on Butter Island is Nubble and it's beach is much gentler.

I continue to be amazed at the spirit of our fellow kayak and camping enthusiasts. Two couples in Sea Kayaks were also camping at Orchard Beach my first night there. Three of them had been School teachers and they decided in their forties to go back to medical school to become nurses. As with everyone else that I've met in Florida kayaking, they were truly friendly and helpful people.

When I think of it, the TI has not only allowed me to have terrific adventures on the water, it's also put me in touch with a group of people that I probably would not have met otherwise. " Bob
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 Post subject: Re: Maine Island Trail
PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:25 pm 
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CaptnChaos wrote:
Nice Pictures Keith ! It's amazing how quickly time flies. Bob told me he was in Stonington last week at the place where you camped. Yesterday he got back from camping on one of the islands and had an interesting time. It was actually pretty close to where you and Nancy were camping by Stonington. Here's a recap of Bob's Maine island camping adventure:

"I sailed from Belfast out to Butter Island on Wednesday. The wind was blowing about 15 to 20 miles an hour once I got out there

Butter Island was a fantastic place to Camp. I stayed two nights. My initial plan was to continue on to Merchants row but because my phone drowned I had to come back to Belfast to replace it. I'm planning to go back out again tomorrow.
It took me seven and a half hours of beating up wind to sail from Belfast to butter. My Lowrance said I went 17 miles but I don't think it's counting all of the vertical up and down of the waves. Personally I believe that I sailed about 40 miles.

Even sailing back yesterday pushed off about 10:45 and there was almost no wind. I was making about 2 miles an hour until I got closer to the Northern end of islesboro. At that point when I came around the point the Southwest wind blowing up Penobscot Bay was probably turning another 2 to 4 foot set of waves and 15 mile an hour winds or more - there were white caps.

Yes I did use my motor both days on the way there I had the motor on I was pedaling and the sail of course. I was also hugging the side of islesboro in order to try and stay out of the wind as much as I could until I made the Crossing from islesboro over to the islands. That night I was so tired I could barely struggle up the beach but there were four kayak campers who were also there and came down to helped me.

Ironically I ended up taking the amas off the boat for the first time so that I could carry them up above the high-water line. I used my beach Wheels underneath the Hull after I pumped out what seemed like gallon after gallon of water. The beach at Orchard Beach is quite steep towards the top.

The other Beach and camping area on Butter Island is Nubble and it's beach is much gentler.

I continue to be amazed at the spirit of our fellow kayak and camping enthusiasts. Two couples in Sea Kayaks were also camping at Orchard Beach my first night there. Three of them had been School teachers and they decided in their forties to go back to medical school to become nurses. As with everyone else that I've met in Florida kayaking, they were truly friendly and helpful people.

When I think of it, the TI has not only allowed me to have terrific adventures on the water, it's also put me in touch with a group of people that I probably would not have met otherwise. " Bob
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This is such a great example of takes of the trail (the Maine Island Trail). We're so glad to hear such fun words from folks out of town! It was great to meet Bob n Jim n Yvonne n Susan. Good time. I write this note from Wheat on the deer Isle archipelago. Great sail and camp this week!! Out with our friends Dan and Louise, a couple we've been hobiesailcationing with the last 3 years!!

Maine is very TI friendly!ImageImageImageImageImageImageImageImage

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