If someone would just do the test below, it would tell exactly what the electric outboard can do. Without it, I just have to take someones opinion about capability. If that includes a ton of other variables like your pedaling and sailing and going different speeds, that is completely useless info. You have no idea what caused what. If this
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was directed at me, please elaborate. All I see is an emotional response..
Sorry, but I would never make that purchase based on the complete lack of real info I see posted. The only data presented is that it works for someone who likely uses the TI completely different than I do. I dont think we are going to get real data from Pro10is so hopefully one of you other folks is interested in knowing how far you can actually go and and what speed for outing planning. I would absolutely want this info before making this signifiant purchase, I would think anyone about to plunk down that big wad of cash would also. And.. its a very easy set of data..
On a day with no wind and no current and on a TI, measure the power in watts and speed for a variety of speeds. For example measure the power in watts at 2,3,4,5,6 mph or as fast as you can go. Peak speed is also valuable to know.
You can then compare this to your battery pack capacity and estimate how far you can travel and at what speed. Using the example I posted earlier, if you measured 300 watts at 5 mph (just a complete guess on my part but it may be close.. please prove me wrong with real data), and you had the 915 watt hour capacity battery, it it a very simple calculation to estimate how long the battery will last. Simply 915 watt*hour / 300 watts = 3.05 hours. Since I know the speed and how long the battery will last, I can easily estimate the distance I can travel.
It would be very interesting to compare those numbers for the different electric outboards ON A TI. As other have noted, all those outboards likely have similar numbers (related to efficiency) until they top out at their max speeds. The larger outboard will just take you to the next higher speed but at more power. This might even tell you which outboard is the most efficient for use on a TI.
Im not at all trying to trash the electric outboards (unlike what was attempted on gas outboard in the last post - I just had to shake my head). Just being able to turn those on without having the pull start would be very nice. And they are quiet.. Looks like possibly a very nice option if you are using it to fish. But what are the actual speed and range numbers without all sort of other variables for the electic motors.
My use is better met with gas for the speed and range I need but I think I would actually go with a "clunky" motor mount and either the 503 or the 1003. The main reason is that its easy to REMOVE all that stuff for using the TI like its intended. Take a look at the 403 mounting and all sort of things are hung on the boat, extra lines, mods for controls in the back seat in areas that are better used for make the TI easier to sail from the back seat. I go out with sailing clubs and no one is electric motor sailing.. So sometimes you want the motor, sometimes you dont. Being able to easily remove the motor and mount is a important to me. I actually use the TI most of the time with NO motor on it. The single mounting point for the 403 looks a little weak to me also. Maybe on a hot day you would come back to find the motor drooping because the plastic back there got hot and deformed? Easy to remove for long trailering like the 1000 mile trip I do twice per year. Dont know.. And with the motor mount, if you found out that the electric range and speed was not what you expected, you could still go to gas later.