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| Author: | leelanauX [ Wed May 23, 2012 1:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Swimming from a TI. 8lb mushroom anchor tie off point? |
Hi, I just bought an 8lb. Mushroom anchor. It's attached to 50 feet of nylon rope by a carabiner. In fact both ends of the rope are attached to a carabiner via a nail knot. So: carabiner - nail knot - nylon rope - nail knot - carabiner - 8lb mushroom anchor. My question is this: when I go swimming from my TI, can I simply clip my carabiner to the Front carrying handle rope? Anyone see a problem with this rig? Thanks! |
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| Author: | NOHUHU [ Wed May 23, 2012 1:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Swimming from a TI. 8lb mushroom anchor tie off point? |
Biners fail and come loose. Better to add a stainless shackle to the front padeye. Connect the rope (at each end) with a swivel snap. That allows you to add more rope quickly.  . And maybe another shackle with a few feet of chain to the anchor. (and more rope  )Other than that- it's perfect! |
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| Author: | leelanauX [ Wed May 23, 2012 2:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Swimming from a TI. 8lb mushroom anchor tie off point? |
Nohuhu, Thanks man! But what is a "stainless shackle"? I believe the picture you included was of a swivel snap. Thanks! |
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| Author: | NOHUHU [ Wed May 23, 2012 3:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Swimming from a TI. 8lb mushroom anchor tie off point? |
LLX, your welcome, Man!   I use this on the boat padeye and on the anchor itself. I don't recall if it's 3/8" or smaller but get a size that will allow your rope handles, etc to stay in place, like Topher's. 
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| Author: | leelanauX [ Wed May 23, 2012 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Swimming from a TI. 8lb mushroom anchor tie off point? |
Thanks again. Does that shackle need to be locked with a lock washer or a twist tie or something? It seems like it could unscrew quite easily. I guess that's not the case. |
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| Author: | NOHUHU [ Wed May 23, 2012 3:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Swimming from a TI. 8lb mushroom anchor tie off point? |
You could locktite it or use a tiewrap, but I have never needed to. Once tight and in the water a few times, it tends to seize up a little. |
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| Author: | oceanmoves [ Wed May 30, 2012 3:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Swimming from a TI. 8lb mushroom anchor tie off point? |
Using this approach, can you adjust how much line you use, depending on the depth, or are you stuck using the same length of line each time, and just clipping it on ? |
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| Author: | tonystott [ Wed May 30, 2012 5:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Swimming from a TI. 8lb mushroom anchor tie off point? |
After feeding it through a shackle attached at the bow, I bring the line back and tie it off with a bowline to the front crossbar. To assist with retrieving the line, I have another short line attached to a ring shackle >outside< the bow shackle, so I can pull the line back from the bow to retrieve the anchor - going out to the bow is not an appealing option!  The blue line is 10 metres long, and is my primary anchor line, with the end tied off on the cross bar. The other end is cleated on the black cleat for neatness, ready to be attached to further anchor line or the anchor. The yellow flecked line is my retrieve line, which is tied off to the base of the cleat, and is connected to the "outside" of the blue line. The whole works is kept tidy with the blue velcro. In the hull I have another 15 metres of anchor line which can be shackled to the blue one (plus a further 50 metres if going on expedition type trips) plus a Cooper anchor with two metres of chain |
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| Author: | NOHUHU [ Wed May 30, 2012 6:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Swimming from a TI. 8lb mushroom anchor tie off point? |
Good tips. leelanauX, if you really want to be sexy, you can install an anchor trolly. They are ok for flat water anchoring. I guess I should also suggest adding a small float, so the line is easier to spot and retrieve. |
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| Author: | oceanmoves [ Thu May 31, 2012 2:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Swimming from a TI. 8lb mushroom anchor tie off point? |
tonystott wrote: After feeding it through a shackle attached at the bow, I bring the line back and tie it off with a bowline to the front crossbar. To assist with retrieving the line, I have another short line attached to a ring shackle >outside< the bow shackle, so I can pull the line back from the bow to retrieve the anchor - going out to the bow is not an appealing option! The blue line is 10 metres long, and is my primary anchor line, with the end tied off on the cross bar. The other end is cleated on the black cleat for neatness, ready to be attached to further anchor line or the anchor. The yellow flecked line is my retrieve line, which is tied off to the base of the cleat, and is connected to the "outside" of the blue line. The whole works is kept tidy with the blue velcro. In the hull I have another 15 metres of anchor line which can be shackled to the blue one (plus a further 50 metres if going on expedition type trips) plus a Cooper anchor with two metres of chain Sounds a bit elaborate, although I'm sure it's great. I've bought a Hobie anchor, with line. For occasional use, couldn't I just put a padeye at the bow, and run a line back into the sheet cleat, for lowering and raising the anchor ? I expect I would be anchoring in sheltered bays for up to an hour or so, rather than in open water. Thanks all |
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| Author: | tonystott [ Thu May 31, 2012 3:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Swimming from a TI. 8lb mushroom anchor tie off point? |
I take the view that relying on the padeye at the bow might be OK, but you then need some means of retrieving the line without actually climbing out the bow, plus I consider the forward crossbar is a much more substantial "anchor", while passing the line through the bow padeye keeps the kayak pointing directly at the anchoring spot. |
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| Author: | oceanmoves [ Thu May 31, 2012 4:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Swimming from a TI. 8lb mushroom anchor tie off point? |
tonystott wrote: I take the view that relying on the padeye at the bow might be OK, but you then need some means of retrieving the line without actually climbing out the bow, plus I consider the forward crossbar is a much more substantial "anchor", while passing the line through the bow padeye keeps the kayak pointing directly at the anchoring spot. is it that hard to retrieve the anchor from the bow ? where do you store your anchor ? front or back ? |
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| Author: | Chekika [ Thu May 31, 2012 4:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Swimming from a TI. 8lb mushroom anchor tie off point? |
If you use a polypropylene anchor line, the line floats. You can retrieve it by simply pedaling over it & picking it up. West Marine sells the line. Here are a couple links to Amazon for polypro anchor lines. http://www.amazon.com/Seasense-Hollow-Braid-Anchor-Polypropylene/dp/B004XAD1QI http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003CULCM0/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_3?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B004XAD1QI&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0TTVG9YRQJAMEEWHS80Q I store my anchor behind the seat on my AI. Keith |
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| Author: | NOHUHU [ Thu May 31, 2012 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Swimming from a TI. 8lb mushroom anchor tie off point? |
I use poly line too. With a snubber bowline so there is some stretch. A bright float is a wise move anyway. It will help with retrieval and visually mark the anchor line for others to see. This is sometimes VERY important. Nothing elaborate - you can clip one on or use a slider. Gives you the option of leaving the anchor there temporarily, if you want to rotate fishing spots. |
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