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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:48 pm 
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Media1der wrote:
There's another "50" saying: "50 yards to swim, 50-degree water, 50-50 chance you're going to make it.".


That's good to know, ChangeMan. I can't dive 55. :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:06 pm 
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PeteCress wrote:
Media1der wrote:
There's a phenomenon in Michigan where 50 degrees in the Autumn might as well be 50 below Antarctic chill, but that same 50 degrees and a southern breeze in the Spring will bring us out to play in shorts and flip-flops! :)
There's another "50" saying: "50 yards to swim, 50-degree water, 50-50 chance you're going to make it.".

OTOH, Lynn Cox swam the Bering Strait basically naked......Something about brown fat....

Long, long ago I was sitting in a Waikiki tourist trap called The International Marketplace taking a break from my job at a nearby hotel. It was December and I was wearing a long-sleeve cardigan and freezing my pasty white butt off....... A tourist from someplace like Broken Pelvis Montana sat down on the same bench. ..... I guess he felt like he had to say something.......And he said..... "Sure is hot and muggy here...."

When I lived in UK during the 60s, we took in an Aussie roommate for a few months. He normally worked at the Woomera rocket range in outback Australia, and was taking 3 months long service leave. We never got over him standing in the loungeroom with heavy overcoat on, in front of a blazing radiator, bang in the middle of beautiful English summer days. I don't think he ever got used to the freezing (to him) climate.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:29 pm 
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coachstevo wrote:
...but the wind will still freeze your fingers. I use windstopper/fleece gloves ( same ones i use cycling in the wet) in winter here, sometimes in summer on nasty foggy days. Keeping the wind off your fingers is key, so even if wet they're still warm
During my windsurfing career, I gradually came around to this:

  • Wear neoprene mittens with the palms cut out.
    They are sold that way - pre-cut.
    .
  • Fold the mittens back over the wrist so the fingers and thumbs are bare.
    .
  • When the hands start getting cold, flip the mitts foreward, covering the
    thumbs, but still leaving the fingers bare.
    .
  • When the hands go numb, insert the fingers and sail back to the beach
    because, at that point, it feels better to sit on the beach in warm dry clothes
    than it feels to windsurf.
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  • Carry a set of kitchen gloves in a pocket just in case things get really dire really fast.
    Kitchen gloves provide a unexpectedly high degree of warmth and kitchen gloves plus neo mitts
    are about as warm as you can get and still have grip strength and some degree of dexterity.

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