Finding Nohuhu's link

A long time ago Nohuhu provided a great link to a website that illustrated all the varied upwind and downwind sails. For the life of me I cannot find it. Anyone still have that? Nohuhu?

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Greg

2016 AI - Spinn & Jib

“Out of sight of land the sailor feels safe. It is the beach that worries him.”
– Charles G. Davis

Is this what you mean Greg?


Downwind
http://www.au.northsails.com/SAILS/Down ... fault.aspx

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Tony Stott
2012 Tandem Island "SIC EM" with Hobie spinnaker

Thanks Tony! That's the one I was looking for.

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Greg

2016 AI - Spinn & Jib

“Out of sight of land the sailor feels safe. It is the beach that worries him.”
– Charles G. Davis

Based on Hobies spinnaker appearance and upwind performance I would think it closest fits the description of a A1 light air reacher. That sail is meant to be used upwind too. Sounds like Hobie had that in mind and knew some of us were going to want that potential. It was probably safer for them just to call it a downwind only sail. I'm glad they made that decision. I think it was the perfect choice other than maybe a code0? I think code0's are normally made of thicker materials and may not have snuffed well.

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Greg

2016 AI - Spinn & Jib

“Out of sight of land the sailor feels safe. It is the beach that worries him.”
– Charles G. Davis

Looking closer I see that you can get a Code0 in lightweight nylon. That would have been an interesting sail to have added. Wonder how much more upwind performance it gives over that A1. Anyone know?

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Greg

2016 AI - Spinn & Jib

“Out of sight of land the sailor feels safe. It is the beach that worries him.”
– Charles G. Davis

Greg, don't forget that the sails shown by North Sails are for use with a fully stayed mast.... Hobie has (very prudently IMO) described their sail as a downwind only sail, given that there is only the backstay/halyard available to support the mast.

Perhaps I should mention that on my own TI, my spinnaker sheets now lead to blocks at the aft end of my amas, and then forward to turning blocks at the outer ends of my akas, and thence to the swivel cleats, as I also noticed that the clew needed opening out more on close reaches.

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Tony Stott
2012 Tandem Island "SIC EM" with Hobie spinnaker

Do you fall short of spinn sheet if using the Hobie supplied sheet with that rigging Tony? I'm getting away with directing the sheets straight to the spin cleat at mid ama on close reaches without backwinding the main but I tend to have the main half furled when the spinn is out. If I furl the main all the way out, I do see main backwinding in the aft 1/3 of the main. I partially furl the main for comfort and viability but I may be loosing power. Will play with your method.

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Greg

2016 AI - Spinn & Jib

“Out of sight of land the sailor feels safe. It is the beach that worries him.”
– Charles G. Davis

Yes, I didn't even try to see if the standard sheets could reach (:lol:), but bought a 30 foot length of 6nn double braid off eBay, so now the Hobie spin sheet only has to do one side. I haven't yet shortened anything, but clearly both sheets are too long right now, better than too short!

It is looking like I will need to add a barber hauler arrangement if I want to move the clew in for sailing closer to the wind. However, the main reason I moved the spin sheeting aft was because it seemed to be choking the clew

It is logical that you would need to partially furl the main when tight reaching, to avoid back-winding. This is one of the reasons why yachts have main travelers, to better manage the gap with the headsail

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Tony Stott
2012 Tandem Island "SIC EM" with Hobie spinnaker