Update to both AI and TI hulls?

I’m with you Greg. When the ‘15 updates were announced there was no info from Hobie that the TI’s buoyancy and volumes were increased. The consensus from many who tried both was that the TI’s updates were minor and made little difference to sailing. The ride was drier due to the Vantage seats but the bow diving and heeling buoyancy was unchanged.
As the LOA of both hull and AMA was unchanged in the update and the bow looks very similar to the original (aside from the minor reverse bow change) and the hatch dimensions are identical (see the link I posted above) these comments on much improved TI sailing are a real surprise.

Just clarifying here - My conclusion was that we are not going to see a drastic update to the Tandem Island anytime soon because it was just updated at the same time that the Adventure Island was. The TI updates included: 1) changing the slope of the bow and amas leading edge, 2) increasing the volume of the hull and amas, and 3) modifications to the hull to accommodate the vantage seats. Am I missing anything?

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2015 Hobie Tandem Island
Ivory Dune
Trampolines, Spinnaker Kit, Lowrance Hook4, Vantage Seat Accessory Bags, GoPro Hero3+, RTIC SoftPak 30, WaterPORT Day Tank

Nothing is clarified to me. When I get back to S FL in a couple weeks, I'm going to a dealer and check out the newest TI and compare to my 2014 TI. Maybe someone will do it before me. Fine.

Keith

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2015 AI 2, 2014 Tandem

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex ... It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." A. Einstein

"Less is more" Anon

HAHA I'm with you. Doesn't seem like we can get an answer here, difinitively.

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2015 Hobie Tandem Island
Ivory Dune
Trampolines, Spinnaker Kit, Lowrance Hook4, Vantage Seat Accessory Bags, GoPro Hero3+, RTIC SoftPak 30, WaterPORT Day Tank

When we added the reverse bows. That is added a small amount of volume at the waterline. Both amas and the main hull were modified in this manor.

Engineering agrees that the difference in performance is minimal.

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Matt Miller
Former - Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Warranty and Technical Support
Hobie Cat USA
(Retired 11/7/2022)

Thanks Matt. I think that clarifies the situation...for me.

Keith

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2015 AI 2, 2014 Tandem

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex ... It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." A. Einstein

"Less is more" Anon

Can someone with a later TI than mine, which is a '10 from the first batch to reach downunder, tell me if it is possible to exit by walking on the bow deck/hatch?
I could do that on my AI's but never on my TI which oil cans to the point of collapse. I weigh 80kg.
To me that is an area that needs updating on the TI.
A re-designed stronger and more waterproof bow deck and hatch would be very welcome!

Its a bit soft on the front hatch otherwise fine on my 2017 TI. Never tried it on an earlier model so sadly I dont have any other reference.
I weigh about 85kgs. I find the plastic getting a bit softer on sunny warm days.
I have been thinking of adding a (removable) front casting deck.... even if it is possible to stand on the hatch/front it doesn't feel very solid at all and and also the sloping slippery surface is hard to balance on.

All the best!
/Gustav

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Sailing my TI and fishing.... thats bliss!!

Thanks Gustav.
I got the impression that the latest model seems stronger when I viewed it at a recent boat show.

I fish my Tandem Island on Nantucket sound as well as cape cod bay and I’ve stood on the forward hatch a few times and it seems to hold my 180 lbs. but not happily. But I do step there when I beach the boat . As for new design , it’s seems my customers really like the new bow and the extra volume . I personally have tried to pitch pole mine and have not been able to which I could do with the older design. Now the one question I do have is balance, has anyone noticed any Lee-helm ?

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John Krystyniak
Sturgis Boatworks
2016 Tandem Island
Dune with silver Dodger
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