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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:10 pm 
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Unfortunately, my local bridge offers less than one foot clearance for my TI's mast at either "hump" in the bridge, so a mast extension is out of the question
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:24 pm 
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Location: Pula - Sardinia
I was wondering about the batten tangling stuff and saw the interesting solution posted by stingy.
What do u think about cutting the batten and placing a pin with a clip? This should be easily done by anybody without going to the sailmaker


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:33 pm 
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hey I love the spinnaker, it will get tangled
So Matt how do I get one of these upgrades


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:44 am 
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Contact your dealer. Would be no charge through our warranty department.

mmiller wrote:
One of the hottest accessories for the Hobie Island is a spinnaker kit. We have made a couple of changes to enhance the ease of use of these great accessories to make them even better.

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72020350 - SPINNAKER KIT ADVENTURE ISLAND
72020351 - SPINNAKER KIT TANDEM ISLAND

There is an issue that has come up from time to time. When the sail is not in use, the spinnaker halyard / back stay can get hooked on the mainsail battens when tacking, gybing or when furling the sail. Keeping a bit of tension on the halyard to keep it from drooping and catching the batten ends is critical.

We have done two things to help prevent this from happening. Last year we added a bit of additional height to the mast top swivel base. This was a running change started late last year:

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This new enhanced part is available for use with older kits:

79503121 BASE - SPINNAKER MAST ROTATOR $5.00 List

This part raises the mast topper and gives more room for the battens to pass under the halyard.

The following is the latest update and is available for all older kits at no charge. Designer Jim Czarnowski had intended to include a cleat on the aft crossbar at the end of the spinnaker bag (for the spinnaker retrieval line). This cleat is used to lock the snuffed spinnaker within the bag which allows tension to be applied to the halyard. You snuff the spinnaker and cleat the retrieval line. Then tension the halyard without pulling the spinnaker back out of the bag. This keeps the lines from drooping and catching on the battens.

We are now including the following parts in all spinnaker kits:

1 ea 10730021 - CLAMCLEAT STBD BLACK
2 ea 8031032 - SCREW, 10-16x1" SELF-TAP S.S.

New instructions include information about the cleat placement and installation.

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New Spinnaker Installation Instructions: https://static.hobiecat.com/item_attachments/Island_Spinnaker_Kit_Instructions.pdf

Both items make for more care free use of the Island Spinnaker Kit.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:58 am 
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Thanks Matt
I did contact my dealer, they are not aware of this fix, I gave him the part numbers you supplied,
I suspect they will get it sorted out

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:05 am 
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mmiller wrote:
One of the hottest accessories for the Hobie Island is a spinnaker kit. We have made a couple of changes to enhance the ease of use of these great accessories to make them even better.

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72020350 - SPINNAKER KIT ADVENTURE ISLAND
72020351 - SPINNAKER KIT TANDEM ISLAND

There is an issue that has come up from time to time. When the sail is not in use, the spinnaker halyard / back stay can get hooked on the mainsail battens when tacking, gybing or when furling the sail. Keeping a bit of tension on the halyard to keep it from drooping and catching the batten ends is critical.

We have done two things to help prevent this from happening. Last year we added a bit of additional height to the mast top swivel base. This was a running change started late last year:

Image

This new enhanced part is available for use with older kits:

79503121 BASE - SPINNAKER MAST ROTATOR $5.00 List

This part raises the mast topper and gives more room for the battens to pass under the halyard.

Image

The following is the latest update and is available for all older kits at no charge. Designer Jim Czarnowski had intended to include a cleat on the aft crossbar at the end of the spinnaker bag (for the spinnaker retrieval line). This cleat is used to lock the snuffed spinnaker within the bag which allows tension to be applied to the halyard. You snuff the spinnaker and cleat the retrieval line. Then tension the halyard without pulling the spinnaker back out of the bag. This keeps the lines from drooping and catching on the battens.

We are now including the following parts in all spinnaker kits:

1 ea 10730021 - CLAMCLEAT STBD BLACK
2 ea 8031032 - SCREW, 10-16x1" SELF-TAP S.S.

New instructions include information about the cleat placement and installation.

Image

New Spinnaker Installation Instructions: https://static.hobiecat.com/item_attachments/Island_Spinnaker_Kit_Instructions.pdf

Both items make for more care free use of the Island Spinnaker Kit.


That seems like the perfect solution, it would be my first time using a spinnaker kit, any tips?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:07 pm 
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I have a kit on order and should arrive in 5 days for my 2013 Hobie tandem.
Any installation tips to make the setup better/easier, etc? Or, just follow the directions?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:24 am 
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I have found it easier to add a temporary extension (about 8 feet long) between the halyard coming down from the masthead fitting to the head of the spinnaker.

This makes raising the mast easier, as the halyard/backstay remains slack. Once the mast is upright, I unclip the extension, attaching the spinnaker head directly to the halyard

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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 12:57 pm 
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Hi All,

Just joined the forums and this in my first post.

I have the Spinnaker kit for my TI and have had the same issues as the rest but have found a few things that help.

When gybing, allow a lot of slack in the main sheet, this will allow the sail to fold under the back stay easier.

When tacking, let out the main sheet and fall off a little bit to allow the sail to slide under the back stay, then head up and trim accordingly.

As far as modifications to make, When I installed the kit, I didn't notice the line in the instructions about trimming the top of the large batten to prevent it from catching on the halyard / back stay. This made the biggest difference in preventing tangles for me.

Also, if you don't have the Jam Cleat on the aka yet to maintain tension on the back stay, get one. It's much easier to prevent the halyard from wrapping around the main sail when furling if tension is maintained. Don't over tighten the back stay though as it bends the mast which makes furling much harder.

Lastly, I've seen a few comments and have heard of others who have had issues with the mast topper falling off. After looking at the parts for a little while, I think I identified a way to hold the topper on with minimal effort and adjustment. http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=83602920678669579108

Enjoy,
John

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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2019 11:05 am 
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Thanks for the post John. I'll be meeting up with you in a couple weeks for the TX200. My first significant snags were in fact sailing in the Tx200 . The only way for me to furl the deployed main once snagged was to stand up and take the mast down, all while moving at a speed of about 6mph and the main sail flailing. It was my welcome to the Tx200. See you soon and let the chaos begin!

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