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 Post subject: Securing TI to trailer
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:47 am 
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All the pictures and videos I see of TIs on trailers use two cinch straps to attach the TI to the trailer. That's it. Is that really enough? Seems like a good bump on the highway could dislodge that setup. What about bow and stern lines? Those are more or less required when cartopping a kayak. Do people tie those lines, too? Hard to tell from the photos on here, and I don't see any recommendations.

For reference, this is the trailer I have in mind: https://www.austinkayak.com/Hobie-Tande ... 7616P.html (it's the Trailex with cradles if you don't want to click).


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:59 am 
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My trailer has a bow snubbing block, I attach the bow line to this which secures fore & aft movement.
Then the cinch straps over both hull supports. Nothing at the back.
If your proposed trailer doesn't have a bow snub, then personally I would attach bow & stern lines - or would it be possible to fit one?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:56 am 
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I have 2 straps for the main hull but the AMAs are tied separately. Have them spaced away from the main hull, strapping everything together puts scratches where they touch. Also my trailer uses PVC tube to support the main hull, not the crappy hobie cradles. Tried them and hated them. PVC works much better.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:55 am 
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quattroguy wrote:
...strapping everything together puts scratches where they touch.

True - I use foam sheets between the main & amas which works well & helps prevents rattling.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:54 am 
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quattroguy wrote:
I have 2 straps for the main hull but the AMAs are tied separately. Have them spaced away from the main hull, strapping everything together puts scratches where they touch. Also my trailer uses PVC tube to support the main hull, not the crappy hobie cradles. Tried them and hated them. PVC works much better.

I used PVC tubing to also cradle the amas as well so that they never touch the body. No more scratches. I wish I knew this before I scratched them badly using the Hobie cradles, which are indeed crappy. My cradles broke into several pieces, after which I went to the PVC setup which is far superior.

As for securing the TI to the trailer, I attach it to the front bow snubbing block via the trailer's winch, then to the trailer itself using four cinching tie-down straps, each attached to the front and rear ama supports which are the strongest tie-down points. Using only two may also work, but I just don't want to risk it. The straps secure both the main hull and the amas together, but since the amas are cradled away from the main hull, they do not get scratched.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:39 am 
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I wouldn't mind trying the PVC cradles. This boat is a 2012, and the cradles are causing some deformation on the front. Also, I don't like how the front cradle overhangs the cross bar on the trailer. This was back when the official package for the TI used the 200-AI trailer, which is really more for an AI. Came straight from Hobie like this though. Got the certificate of origin and everything. That being said, because the 200-AI front crossbar is short, some kind of modification would have to happen to make the bar long enough to support PVC cradles.

I should add that the deformation appears to be happening because the ridges in the cradle don't quite line up with the grooves in the boat. Moving the boat fore or aft doesn't seem to solve the problem, either. It just shifts the issue to the other cradle.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:32 am 
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If you arrange the two cross straps so that they envelope the aka braces, it's not going to slip, slide nor dislodge.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:35 am 
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fadecomic wrote:
I wouldn't mind trying the PVC cradles. This boat is a 2012, and the cradles are causing some deformation on the front. Also, I don't like how the front cradle overhangs the cross bar on the trailer. This was back when the official package for the TI used the 200-AI trailer, which is really more for an AI. Came straight from Hobie like this though. Got the certificate of origin and everything. That being said, because the 200-AI front crossbar is short, some kind of modification would have to happen to make the bar long enough to support PVC cradles.

I should add that the deformation appears to be happening because the ridges in the cradle don't quite line up with the grooves in the boat. Moving the boat fore or aft doesn't seem to solve the problem, either. It just shifts the issue to the other cradle.



Be advised that if you don't allow the PVC cradles to sag/flex in the middle in order to conform to the hull, they'll deform your boat just like the ill-fitting Hobie cradles do. I see a good many people using my PVC idea but they stop short of understanding why the PVC has to be able to flex from end to end. It works well if you do it right. Do it wrong and your hull may suffer.


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