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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:00 pm 
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Hi all,

Newbie here... A thoughtful friend has left her AI with us while she's on the road for the next year or two. I have set up wall rack storage, but am working on the transport question. We have a 2013 Sienna minivan, which has the standard roof rails (but no crossrails yet). Been doing a bunch of reading and here's my proposed setup:

We already have a Thule rack with 54" bars. I am looking at buying Thule 450 Crossroad railing foot adapters to let us use the Thule bars on top of the Toyota rails. For loading the AI I would use a Rhino Rack Universal Side Loader (https://www.amazon.com/Rhino-Rack-Unive ... ide+loader) to assist with loading. Our friend has also loaned us her Yakima rack saddles which should attach to the Thule bars.

Does the Rhino loader seem like a good solution? The minivan is fairly tall, and the AI is not light. I'm a 6'2" guy, but not Hulk Hogan. Trying to find an economical solution that would allow me to load solo.

(As a side note, I may set up a trailer to pull behind our motorhome with the AI & bikes, but would rather have a simpler rooftop solution for local excursions.)

Thanks in advance for any advice,

Steve

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:50 pm 
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Steverino wrote:
Hi all,

Newbie here... A thoughtful friend has left her AI with us while she's on the road for the next year or two. I have set up wall rack storage, but am working on the transport question. We have a 2013 Sienna minivan, which has the standard roof rails (but no crossrails yet). Been doing a bunch of reading and here's my proposed setup:

We already have a Thule rack with 54" bars. I am looking at buying Thule 450 Crossroad railing foot adapters to let us use the Thule bars on top of the Toyota rails. For loading the AI I would use a Rhino Rack Universal Side Loader (https://www.amazon.com/Rhino-Rack-Unive ... ide+loader) to assist with loading. Our friend has also loaned us her Yakima rack saddles which should attach to the Thule bars.

Does the Rhino loader seem like a good solution? The minivan is fairly tall, and the AI is not light. I'm a 6'2" guy, but not Hulk Hogan. Trying to find an economical solution that would allow me to load solo.

(As a side note, I may set up a trailer to pull behind our motorhome with the AI & bikes, but would rather have a simpler rooftop solution for local excursions.)

Thanks in advance for any advice,

Steve


Hi Steve

We have a TI and have done quite a lot of work to enable car topping it. No room to store a trailer at home.

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The home made roof rack is screwed to Thule cross bars.

The back wheels on the kayak help to pivot its nose up onto the side bar, then we push it up across the car then swing it into position.
A rope prevents it from rolling away after getting the nose up.

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As you can see my 164cm tall wife can lift it onto our Subaru Outback by herself this way.
I usually do it though with her help or on my own if I am sailing alone.

In this sequence we forgot to strap the mast to the boat before lifting it.

Some people use a scupper cart in the absence of our built in wheels but they make launching a retrieving it at the boat ramp much easier.

See https://www.hobie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=59743 about these.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:29 am 
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Thanks for the quick & detailed reply! That is an impressive setup - very nicely done. Gives me hope and some good food for thought as I try to figure out the best setup for our particular situation. (Course being middle of winter with 1 deg. F. (-17 C) this morning kind of puts a damper on physical experimentation... :shock: )

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:49 am 
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Very neat system on the suby. I am working on a modified ladder rack system for my pickup, uses an extension ladder with one part bolted to the rack and the other strapped to the boat. In theory I can lower the rear support and let the boat slide back with a pulley or winch. Right now the ladder has PVC pipe bolted on to support the hull, project is on hold for a few weeks due to a hernia procedure last week. But I am optimistic, this might be a neat system if it all balances out.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:00 pm 
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Steverino wrote:
(Course being middle of winter with 1 deg. F. (-17 C) this morning kind of puts a damper on physical experimentation... :shock: )



Was +40.6 C (105.08 F) When I was writing my post yesterday. Expecting +38C (100.4F) today so not doing much outside either.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:53 am 
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I'd urge you to consider a harbor freight 4x8 folding trailer. I use one for my '17 AI and it is fantastic. EZ to launch and retrieve all by myself. Check YouTube videos


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:39 am 
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douglasflather wrote:
I'd urge you to consider a harbor freight 4x8 folding trailer. I use one for my '17 AI and it is fantastic. EZ to launch and retrieve all by myself. Check YouTube videos


Actually I do have a HF 4x8 trailer - we've used it for years for yard stuff. Have been considering it for possible kayak use as well, but had hoped the rooftop would be less hassle. Will check out some videos online.

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