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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:42 pm 
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I'd go for a significantly upgraded one...

Motor mount would be great and hakas.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:03 am 
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rlepoid,

Yes, my mast looked exactly like that.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:39 pm 
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Good I found a use for my excess 2 feet by 2 inch KeelEazy tape.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:27 pm 
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It seems absolutely obvious to me that some substantial % of mast failures are occurring because the downhaul cleat rivet is damaging the outer surface of the masts. When I inspected my nearly new mast, there was already a distinct wear-line forming and I could easily feel a burred surface of the rivet, making a nice cutting tool for the purpose. Hobie needs to correct this design flaw if it's not already been done- the sail hardly needs a downhaul adjustment anyway since without a boom its always deeply cambered. I removed my cleat with zero performance hit.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:12 am 
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bluelaser2 wrote:
It seems absolutely obvious to me that some substantial % of mast failures are occurring because the downhaul cleat rivet is damaging the outer surface of the masts. When I inspected my nearly new mast, there was already a distinct wear-line forming and I could easily feel a burred surface of the rivet, making a nice cutting tool for the purpose. Hobie needs to correct this design flaw if it's not already been done- the sail hardly needs a downhaul adjustment anyway since without a boom its always deeply cambered. I removed my cleat with zero performance hit.

Amen!

I noticed the same thing after the first season with my 2015 AI2.

And the only reason I noticed it was that the cheap metal they used to attach the cleat totally corroded out - leaving the cleat half-detached:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP ... JaRW5TYzBR
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP ... JaRW5TYzBR

The wear on my mast was not extreme, but still was pretty obvious:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP ... JaRW5TYzBR

Giving letter grades to my sail and sail bat, I would give it D- for materials and D for execution. ... I really don't know where all this "Hobie Quality" stuff comes from. ..... Warranty replacement so far, pretty decent.... But Quality ???

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:08 am 
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The rivets on mine rusted away after about a year and that white plate came loose, I just removed the rivets and glued the plate down to the sail with marine epoxy, (I didn’t soak those rivets down when the boat was new).
The rivets on the batten pockets will also rust away in salt water, when my boat was new I soaked all those rivets with clearcoat spray paint before ever using the boat, (any rivets or any exposed steel I could find on the boat), all the rivets and steel remain nice and clean 5-6yrs later.
Think about it, when the boat is new you have to remove the sail to tape up the mast joint anyway, (otherwise the mast turns at the mast split when you furl). While your in there just put a second wrap of tape down near the bottom, ( to protect the mast from the rivets). Your in there anyway, might as well, lol.
3m electrical tape works very well, (make sure it’s real 3m tape and it has to be black, (UV)).
It’s really important to rinse everything really well with fresh water, ( including the sails) after any salt water use, that salt ruins everything.
Just tryin to help here
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:14 pm 
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My wife and I just went to the Palm Beach boat show and saw the tandem island there. We were about to order one but this is really concerning to come across this. Have the 2018's had this issue fixed? This looks like an obvious design flaw. We were so excited. :(


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:52 am 
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A pad of material on the mast would prevent the rivet wear concern. Mast failures seem to relate mostly (%) an older vintage of boats. Understand also that masts are the most fragile part of any sailboat. They are designed to be as lite as possible. Rest assured that the over-all mast failure percentage is very low. You will find that we have a LOT of boats in use around the World with a wide range of age and condition, we hear about the extreme issues here. Mast failures are more common in over-loaded conditions. Higher winds with heavier loads in the boat. Roller reefing the sail in these conditions is recommended to reduce loads on this area of the mast.

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