Return to Hobie.com
Hobie Forums
It is currently Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:50 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:35 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:25 pm
Posts: 2863
Location: Central Coast NSW Australia
Vantage CT seats from our '16 Oasis fitted to our '10 TI.

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

I had previously raised the seats to get out of the puddle but no longer need all this:
Image

...which gives us extra storage space under the seats:
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:20 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:58 am
Posts: 2893
Location: Forster, NSW, Australia
Talk about upgrading! So when are you fitting 180 drives? Cool mod Stringy.

_________________
Tony Stott
2012 Tandem Island "SIC EM" with Hobie spinnaker


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:37 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Captain

Joined: Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:52 pm
Posts: 132
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
Hefty lift in the centre of gravity. I guess you can get away with that on a TI.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:17 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:14 pm
Posts: 3323
Location: South Florida
Very nice Stringy! Well done.

Keith

_________________
2015 AI 2, 2014 Tandem

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex ... It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." A. Einstein

"Less is more" Anon


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:25 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:21 pm
Posts: 2498
Location: Central Florida
If Anyone could do it, Stringy would!

_________________
Image
Hobie Island Sailing since 2006


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:50 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:24 pm
Posts: 780
Location: Houston, TX
Stringy, that is well done! Looks like they came that way.

_________________
Greg

2016 AI - Spinn & Jib

“Out of sight of land the sailor feels safe. It is the beach that worries him.”
– Charles G. Davis

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:43 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:25 pm
Posts: 2863
Location: Central Coast NSW Australia
Thanks guys! :)
This is a mod that is really only viable if, like me, you already had the Vantage seats on another kayak. At AUD$575 for each seat it wouldn't be worth it, especially as you don't get the adjustable thigh support.
Still, my wife and I are are very happy with this mod. You certainly sit higher and drier and the comfort and breathability of the seats is a great improvement over what we had before. The under seat storage is an added bonus and they do make great camp chairs as well.
It was actually a pretty simple mod to do. The Vantage seats lend themselves to a number of mounting options. I used 20mm alloy channel sitting in a 25mm channel for quick release so that I can refit the original seats easily if needed. I could have gone with 25mm/1" Bimini tube. The tube would need an indentation for the thigh support lever tab. It may also be possible to use the feet and floor mounts from the Vantage Pro Angler seat in place of the rear saddles I fitted. I'm checking out part numbers with my dealer.

As LB points out the C of G is raised but that is not an issue with the TI. Sitting higher makes it easier to swap sides when hiking out.
It is probably an issue in kayak mode but we've yet to test that.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:26 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 5:06 am
Posts: 1701
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW AUSTRALIA
Very neat mod Stringy. They certainly are a comfortable seat. I suspect that the higher CofG is only an issue in kayak mode. I haven't tried it yet to see how much more unstable it is though.

_________________
Image

Don't take life too seriously................it ain't permanent.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:21 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:25 pm
Posts: 2863
Location: Central Coast NSW Australia
Thanks Slaughter. Sounds like you've upgraded?
AI2?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:19 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:25 pm
Posts: 387
Location: Jaco, Costa Rica
Looks good. But better is an Attwood with the older TI's and AI's. No need for any modification and they make great beach seats. Far more comfortable in my opinion. Not cheap. But, if you have a couple extra vantage seats, I can understand putting them to good use. I take it you will move them back and forth from the Oasis to TI, as used? Good idea!!

_________________
Mark
Tandem Island- 2013
2 - Sports - 2014


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:48 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 5:06 am
Posts: 1701
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW AUSTRALIA
Nah mate. Still got the V2 AI with the skipper seat mod. Hard to justify the change over just yet. (but it will happen)

_________________
Image

Don't take life too seriously................it ain't permanent.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:20 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:14 pm
Posts: 3323
Location: South Florida
It's time, Slaughter, it is time! The AI 2 is such an improvement. Why wait?

Again, nice seat mod, Stringy. :-)

Keith

_________________
2015 AI 2, 2014 Tandem

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex ... It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." A. Einstein

"Less is more" Anon


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:42 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Deck Hand

Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:12 am
Posts: 1
Location: Kansas City
Good morning,

Would you be so kind to share more detail on this modification?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:52 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Captain

Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:27 pm
Posts: 86
Nicely done stringy! Those look like you'll stay even drier than a Vantage Seat in a new boat.

I have been waiting a couple of years to see someone hack a Vantage into an old boat... am I right that this is the first one? Surprised it took that long!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:09 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:25 pm
Posts: 2863
Location: Central Coast NSW Australia
Farrarkc wrote:
Good morning,

Would you be so kind to share more detail on this modification?


Hi Farrarkc,
There are many ways that CT seats could be fitted. I just used what I had on hand. The rear is easy- saddles self tapped through the hull. The saddles fit into the rear seat receivers for the beach seat legs. I added a bungee loop over a button on the hull in place of the standard rear webbing retainer as I didn’t have the female clip.
The front was a bit more challenging. You need something strong enough to span the gunwales and take your weight. I used 20mm U-section aluminium tube (leftovers from a DIY louvre kit). You could use 1” Bimini tube. The CT seat has a half pipe section of frame at the front that sits nicely on the tube. At each end where the squared off sections that fit the genuine height adjusters are I added a nylon ‘spacer’ that takes most of the weight. Velcro straps secure the seat to the tube. The front seat mount needed a small bracket fitted to the side of the gunwale as the Centreboard surrounds leave little gunwale. The tube/brackets at the front are through bolted using stainless M6 bolts and stainless ‘channel’ nuts inside the gunnel that don’t need holding with a spanner when fitting.
We really like the CT seats comfort and airiness and the higher seating position which is much drier, makes access easier and helps when swapping from seat to haka when hiking out. Using the CT seats as beach seats is also handy.
If and when I upgrade I hope the later hull high position on the CT seats is as high. If not, I’d have to look at doing the mod again -its that good! Previously the furled sail mainsheet used to sit annoyingly on my shoulder. Now it sits under my arm, which isn’t as annoying.
The negative with this mod would be the higher centre of gravity in kayak (hull only) mode. I made the tube to be easily removable (used M6 eyebolts/eyenuts) so that the original seats could be refitted if needed.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  
© Hobie Cat Company. All rights reserved.
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group