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 Post subject: optional sail?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:52 am 
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how many of you have a sail and which Hobie do you use it in? is it worth the expense? does the sail make the yak tippy? it would be nice to cruise around under sail with the wind doing all the work. I already have a PA and am looking to get either a outback or revolution for my son. we have tried the sport and outback, neither of us like the sport (we are both over 6' tall) and now we need to find a dealer that rents the revo to try it compared to the OB. I would want to add a sail so my son won't get bored on the water while I am fishing.


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 Post subject: Re: optional sail?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:55 pm 
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I have a Sport with the sail and I would highly recommend it as long as you also install the sidekicks to prevent capsizing. I enjoy using the mirage drive and the sail at the same time. I have tried just sailing but enjoy the extra speed I get by using both forms of propulsion together.


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 Post subject: Re: optional sail?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:14 pm 
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I have a Revo with sail & sidekicks. I use the sail on the lake any time there is enough wind. If you son is 6"+ I would think you would want the Revo. The only Hobie kayak faster than the Revo is the Adventure. I got dumped a time or two so bought the sidekicks. The lake I sail that is close to home, has very unpredictable wind gusts. You don't have to have sidekicks if you have a steady winds but the guts can get you. Depends on how much fun you want to have. I'm 65 so getting dumped isn't as much fun as a few years ago. I enjoy wind between 10 & 20 mph.

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 Post subject: Re: optional sail?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:53 pm 
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I have a pair of Outfitters and sail kits for both. You can see some of my prior posts on sailing these kayaks here:

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=9820

Last week we were at Big Lagoon State Park near Pensacola, FL, and I had my wife use the sails for the first time. Winds were light but she had a blast learning and I am hopeful that she'll be sailing more in the future.

Peter


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 Post subject: Re: optional sail?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:41 pm 
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The Revo is a great little sailer! Yes, the narrower kayaks are a little more tender than most sailboats so many prefer the added stability of having Sidekicks. I personally don't use them nor do I think they are necessary, especially for someone young and wanting to develop good sailiing skills (as long as the water is not too cold). IMO, it would be an excellent challenge for a young man to master -- at least it would keep him busy for hours! You can always add Sidekicks later if appropriate.

As you can see here, the Revo heels fairly easy, but it's not unstable:
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Using the sail with pedals one can get moving right along:
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The Adventure makes a dandy sailer as well:
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Whoops, how did that PA get into this post? It's a fishing boat!

As it turns out, the PA sails beautifully although not very fast! But then none of the kayaks with the small sail would be considered fast without some pedal support. The PA is very stable with a sail and can handle quite a bit of wind. It can get up to 3 or 4 MPH under sail power alone.

So if you buy a sail for your son, he may have to wait for Dad to finish using it! :wink:

The sails are not difficult to set up and take down on the water. When not in use, I just stow it along the side -- they can be carried easily:
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There are some articles on sailing the Revo here and on the sailing forum, along with some very handy tips on rigging. Try using the search function. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: optional sail?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:16 pm 
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thanks for the info everyone! great pictures RR!


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 Post subject: Re: optional sail?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:04 am 
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The picture of the Pro Angler under sail I like very much...

It convinces me that it would be feasible for Hobie to develop a more 'general purpose' boat, using the Mirage Drive, as required, as an alternative to a pair of oars.

The revo/adventure are out'n'out kayaks, paddling is good but rowing just doesn't enter the equation.

Extra sail power for a heavier general purpose boat would probably be best provided by a jibsail.

Hey, I even thought of a name for it - 'Hobie Jeep' - think of the fun the marketing department would have with a name like that - if there happens to be a 4x4 company already using the name, well, let them join the party...

Ditch


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 Post subject: Re: optional sail?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:36 pm 
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Ditch,

Kayaks are suppose to be paddled. If you have a Hobie you can also peddle & sail it.

Row a kayak? It just ain't right to row a kayak. I wouldn't want my friends seeing me do that!

And they won't. It just ain't right...Now am going to have night mares tonight getting to sleep. :? :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: optional sail?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:16 pm 
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BNelsonR wrote:
Ditch,

Kayaks are suppose to be paddled. If you have a Hobie you can also peddle & sail it.

Row a kayak? It just ain't right to row a kayak. I wouldn't want my friends seeing me do that!

And they won't. It just ain't right...Now am going to have night mares tonight getting to sleep. :? :roll:

It's not such a big deal - the Mirage Drive should move any kind of boat, kayak or not, so long as it ain't too heavy.

Ditch


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 Post subject: Re: optional sail?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:52 pm 
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Ditch Crawler wrote:
- the Mirage Drive should move any kind of boat, kayak or not, so long as it ain't too heavy.

That Mirage Drive can move a heavier boat than you might think! :wink:
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 Post subject: Re: optional sail?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:10 am 
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Sailing is pretty tough.........Steve


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