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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:38 am 
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Ok on my maiden voyage in the outback I had the problem of constantly having to correct the steering. I bought and installed turbo fins and the sailing rudder for my second voyage. Now I can pick out a tree 100 yards away set the rudder and peddle straight to it without touching the rudder handle. I also took a little slack out of the rudder steering cables when I installed the new rudder. Which thing took out the constant need for having to constantly correct the steering, the adjustment or the installation of the sailing rudder?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:20 pm 
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So whats the question? From your post the only downside might be if the steering lines are " too" tight you will get wear quicker...and a steering line repair on the water is not the easiest....keep an eye on the wear issue.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:20 pm 
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My question was which thing do you think made the steering better, the addition of the sailing rudder or removing the slack from the steering? I thought the answer may help other that I've read on here that have trouble as I did at first peddling in a straight line. Since I did both at the same time I'm not sure which act corrected the problem. I'm inclined to believe it was removing the slack in the steering.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:54 pm 
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Oh, I see....I have had the steering lines stretch out a bit and have "snugged" them up a bit. When I first used the Sailing rudder I was amazed at the improvement. Mostly I fish tidal, open water with some wind, so I pretty much have to navigate continuously since I'm being pushed by the wind and tide according to the angle I'm traveling. You definitely gave your ride a nice tune up. Watch for wear on you lines and the leadouts on your Hobie. To me Snug is one thing, to you "Tightened up" might be something else. Do You fish or cruise?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:29 pm 
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Bob, I only took the slack out of the line. I didn't pull it tight. I love the sailing rudder. It reacts way better at slow speeds. Right now I am crappie fishing. I like to suspend over brushpiles and use a 10' jig pole to pull them out of the brush piles. The Outback is great for putting the nose into the wind and stroking the pedals a little to keep me on the top. If it appears to be fish on the top I'll pedal up wind, throw out the anchor and drift backwards until the top shows up on my ff and start fishing. It has taken me a few trips to relearn how to fish from a kayak, but it sure has been fun and very effective. I have caught more fish from my kayak than I ever did from my motor boat. I want to learn to striper fish and walleye fish. Never caught either one.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:46 pm 
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Removing slack from the rudder lines may help directional control, but the main benefit is improved turning radius. Slack lines don't allow the rudder to deflect to its full capacity.

Going from the small to the large rudder also helps your turn radius, but its most significant contribution is low speed rudder authority, giving much better directional command over your boat. It also greatly reduces the need for frequent corrections as you noted. and reduces response times.

I raced behind a guy in another Adventure once out in the ocean. He had a small standard rudder and I had the large sailing rudder. The swell was moving his boat around quite a bit and he was continually wagging his rudder back and forth to hold course. I think this took a toll on his speed. My boat tracked much straighter. Despite the larger surface area, there is little doubt that the large rudder's straighter tracking with fewer rudder corrections was an advantage.

I like to see a little tension in the directional lines. This helps hold the rudder in position. So far, I haven't experienced any fray or other damage. BTW, the boat expands slightly in warmer weather, making the lines tighter. IMO, this is normal and not an issue to be concerned with. 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:02 pm 
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I hadn't thought about expansion. My next project is to install a tandum steering handle on the right side of my outback.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:26 pm 
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The answer to your question is both.


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