How much does the Oasis really weigh?

I know what Hobie says on the forum and site and official specs, but that can’t be right. With seats and everything but the Mirage drives it has to weigh well over 100 Lbs. I bought a garage ceiling hoist system that is rated to hold 100Lbs and I couldn’t even hoist the Oasis up with it, I could barley get it off the ground.

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2011 Oasis with Sail and AMA's
2011 Necky Looksha 14

A couple of long roofrack straps can be used to hoist a loaded Oasis into a garage roof easy peasy - just wheel the boat in put the straps (which should already be hanging from hooks screwed into the joists above) round it about 1/3 in from each end then gradually raise the boat up by shortening the straps in steps one after the other. It's not particularly fancy but it's cheap and it works

I made my (really long) straps by buying some suitable tape for next to nothing per metre, cutting the metal jambing buckles off some old straps and tying long lengths of the new tape to the buckles. Having made them for storing the yaks in the garage I find that the long straps are excellent for transporting two kayaks on roof bars because they go over under and around both kayaks whatever way you choose to strap them down.

Weights were discussed in RoadRunner's first review of the Revo 11. RR said,


In that article, the Revo's published weight was 47lb, but measured weight 57.5 lb. You'd need to scale up for the Oasis.

Complete thread here:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=37621

Mary

The Oasis weighs more than what they list.

My wife is a long time office RN in a busy family practice.

She said Hobie re the weight of the Oasis reminds her of most patients when they list their weight. The reality is usually way beyond what they tell her or write down or Hobie lists.

It only took a us a little over 24 hours after we bought our Oasis to return to the shop and buy a trailer for it. It stays on the trailer at home and travels to and from the launch sites on the trailer. It still takes two of us to flip the Oasis from the upside down storage/travel position on trailer to safely back it off the rear bar of the trailer and to get it back on the trailer.

As I have posted before. We have a love/hate relationship with our Oasis. We love it once we get it into the water and off the Trax and begin to peddle it.

We start hating it again when we get back to the launch site and have to lift it sideways to get it on the Trax and from the Trax up on the trailer and flipping it to stay upside down for the travel and storage.

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2009 Oasis
2012 Freedom Hawk Pathfinder

I was hoping Matt Miller would chime in and give me the real weight, I don’t need a guess. My guess is that it’s about 120Lbs with everything including drives and about 105 to 110 without drives. But I need to know a more accurate measure so I don’t overload the lift and have an accident that will damage the Kayak or hurt someone.

Thanks for the replies so far though.

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2011 Oasis with Sail and AMA's
2011 Necky Looksha 14

Grampa Spey - there is an easy solution to your problem transporting your Oasis, check out this site

http://www.c-tug.net/

I believe they are available in the States. I have the puncture free wheel and have used them on rocks, sand, concrete ramps and sealed roads without problem. I am not convinced that scupper trolleys are the best solution - all this tipping up the yak and having everything fall out. The Ctug fits into the front hatch of an Outback no problems.

I believe Hobie weighs their kayaks (as do most of the industry) with a "Hull Only" weight. So, that would be JUST the plastic, no attachments, no seat, no bungies, no nothing. Within that, there is a variance of a few pounds simply because the Rotomolding process is not an exact science when it comes to weight.

Having said that, my Adventure Island in kayak mode was under 100 lbs without any questions. It has as much rigging as the Outback, and includes the metal cross bars etc. and I would assume, a similar amount of plastic.

So I can't give you an accurate picture of how much your Outback weighs, but I can tell you that the stated weight for an Outback is probably a Hull Only weight within about 3 to 5 lbs. From there, I'd estimate the weight of the bungie cords and attachments, and then weigh the seat, mirage drive (which I believe is just under 7 lbs) etc.

I'm positive that the hull, with standard attachments and no seat, will be under 100 lbs. But that doesn't make it light!

I'd get something rated to hold more than 100 lbs, just to give yourself an extra measure of safety. I always like doubling the weight on that type of system. Having said that, you should be able to get the Outback off the ground with a system like that. I would double check how it's rigged etc. Or maybe take a look at the science of it, and see if the manufacturer over states the simplicity that you can lift any given weight.

Hope that helps a little. Sorry I can't be more accurate.

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Thanks, I bought the new Feel Free Camel Kayak Trailer, FFCKT, and it works great for my big butted Freedom Hawks. Nothing worked before, and I have 3 different Kayak carts.

At the time I bought the FFCKT, the C-Tug's new heavier duty model was not on the market, and there were complaints re the older wheel not performing with the older model.

http://www.austinkayak.com/products/rev ... olley.html

If the good weather holds here in N California, I hope to try the FFCKT with our Oasis. It like your C-Tug should work without "tipping up the yak and having everything fall out!"

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2009 Oasis
2012 Freedom Hawk Pathfinder

I put my Oasis up on my old scale, which has been accurate plus or minus a couple of pounds. Weight in cartop mode - no seats, drives or paddles, but otherwise complete: 92 pounds.



Weight with 2 seats and 2 drives (no paddles) added: 111 pounds




One drive is a turbo, the other is a standard. The seats are factory standard. I set the drives on the seats for the weigh-in. I made sure that nothing was touching the ground. The drives are 13 pounds of the weight, so the seats must weigh 3 pounds apiece. I didn't weigh the paddles, but they're in the 3 or 4 pounds range, but you know that. Hope this helps.

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2011 Oasis (papaya)
2012 Revo (dune)

Whoops, I read "Oasis" as "Outback" The Oasis is heavier, but I'm a bit surprised it's that heavy.

Nicely done Sherminator

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I was a little surprised too. It doesn't feel that heavy to me. I can pick it off the ground pretty easily, but it is awkward. I put it on top of my Subaru by myself all the time, but by lifting one end at a time.

I also have little trouble getting it off the scupper cart without tipping it. I run it down into the water to where the stern can float when I lift the bow. I lift the bow to about head height and the wheels fall out (as long as I remembered to pull the keeper pin). The cart floats, so it falling in the water is not a problem. I shuffle a couple of steps to the side and set the Oasis down.

Getting the scupper cart back in does require more work if I'm by myself. I do have to unload my boat (but only the loose stuff) and tip it. But as I am just going to go to the car, I don't have to be too neat about getting everything back in its place - just dump it in there and wheel away to the car.

I am not a strongman by any means. I am an average 50+ guy who uses good technique, and handle that Oasis solo fairly easily.

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2011 Oasis (papaya)
2012 Revo (dune)

My '11 Oasis weighs in at 87# without removable accessories or equipment. Lifting the hull overhead for storage using a hoist system with a 2:1 purchase requires only about 45# of pull. It's not too difficult to build one for about $30+/- with about 6 blocks, 7 lag eye bolts, 60 to 70 feet of line and a couple of wide straps. That garage sale special may have some parts you can use!

The weight of the boat disappears once it is on the water. Getting it there without strain is the trick. With a little experience and forethought it's not too hard to manage though. If you have standard wheels, it's pretty easy to remove and install the cart in the water once you get the hang of it. You can make sure your gear is secured (Drives and paddles installed) or placed on the low side so it doesn't tumble out, but the lift angle is not that bad. Notice in the picture the boat is resting against the right leg while the right hand just holds it steady. The left hand guides the near cart leg along the seam to the upper scupper hole, then pivots the cart until it drops in the lower hole.


The Trax cart is a little harder to handle, but still doable. It took a few years to become this lazy, but these days the boat never has to touch bare ground, the boat (with gear) only requires one trip to the water and I never have to lift more than half the boat at once (even when soloing). That's pretty easy kayaking!

That’s about what I thought, I don’t know why Hobie only posts the plastic unrigged weight out of the mold, even that seems to be very very conservative......SHAME on you HOBIE. What good does it do to cover up the practical truth. We need to know what the actual rigged weight is with seats and all factory hardware when considering such things and hoist system or trailering and roof toping. This seems like an out right lie!

I don’t look at higher weight as a sign of a poorly engineered Kayak, in fact I can logically conclude that if I had 2 different 14' plastic Kayaks and one was 10-15 lbs lighter that it would be of thinner plastic hull and probably of lesser quality and overall duration. But the real weight is a necessary tool to know what you’re getting into for many reasons and this published LIE is atrocious. My Necky Looksha is very close to the stated weight as are many others, no excuse to post such a (70 lbs) number when it isnt even close to that.

Very Disappointed in Hobie Marketing, lies should not be tolerated by the customer.

I would like to hear from Matt what the official reason is for such a misrepresentation in the weight and why Hobie thinks it is necessary to publish such a useless unusable number as 70 Lbs for the Oasis and I suspect all of their Kayaks.

I love Hobie’s product and would buy it anyway but to be so deceived makes me feel taken and seriously lowers my respect for Hobie.


Too late to take my lift back now.

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2011 Oasis with Sail and AMA's
2011 Necky Looksha 14

To be fair... most other kayak manufacturers do the same thing. So I believe Hobie does it to be consistent with other manufacturers. If a Hobie is within 5 lbs of another boat, but lists their boat as 15 lbs heavier, I suppose it would be an issue.

I tend to agree with you. I know that most kayak shoppers are shopping equal boats, and there is often little difference between two manufacturers, so sometimes the weight is the determining factor. Having said that, the Mirage Drive boats are not generally compared on weight alone. It sure would be nice if Hobie listed the Hull weight (as a comparative measure) and the fully rigged weight as an actual number.

In general, I find the Hobie boats to be a little on the Heavy side compared to the competition. Having said that, for the price, you can get a lighter material in a paddle only kayak.

For the most part, I agree with you, it's something Hobie could consider.

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augaug has the answer. It is industry standard to show a stripped down weight. This has been discussed many times before. Nothing new or being hidden. This is stated on the product comparison page: We go back and forth on how that should be represented to consumers. We show "hull" weight in most current literature. That is a stripped down weight without the items most other companies add to their product as accessories. We offer hatches and hardware standard, so the comparison is muddled. You will see some of the products (Islands and Pro Angler) showing hull weight and rigged weight. That to me makes sense.

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Matt Miller
Former - Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Warranty and Technical Support
Hobie Cat USA
(Retired 11/7/2022)