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 Post subject: Paperwork?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:33 pm 
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Picking up our new PA12 and PA14 Tuesday and hoping someone could tell me what paperwork and accessories should be included. Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Paperwork?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:25 am 
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PA-12 http://www.hobiecat.com/mirage/mirage-p ... -12/specs/
PA-14 http://www.hobiecat.com/mirage/mirage-p ... -14/specs/
Only other paperwork would be the "MSO"....Manufacturer's Statement of Origin that will contain the serial number of the PA....need one for each kayak.
You need to request this from your dealer as it will be mailed to you from Hobie......this is the legal title for the kayak.

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 Post subject: Re: Paperwork?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:10 am 
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Get the MSO. I decided to register my boat and needed that form to complete that process. I was surprised that the MSO isn't given without asking.


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 Post subject: Re: Paperwork?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:19 pm 
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Once submitted, should we expect anything in return? ie acknowledgement of receipt? I submitted everything online & never heard back? Normal?

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 Post subject: Re: Paperwork?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:42 pm 
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The MSO is the ownership document assigned by us to the dealer. They would then sign it over to you to use at your regional registration authority if needed. Many places do not register kayaks, so not all dealers get their MSOs.

MSOs are delivered to dealers accounts electronically. They just have to download them these days.

Warranty registration has nothing to do with an MSO and does not trigger any return item to the owner. It just adds your data to our system for possible use in case of a recall or claim.

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 Post subject: Re: Paperwork?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:49 pm 
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Is the Mirage cassette included or any rail attachments? Paddle? Somewhere I saw a grommet kit for wiring plugs too. Included? None of this mentioned in the spec page. At another shop, I saw some carbon paddles. They looked great until I saw the price.

Does the certificate show sales tax payment as well. In Massachusetts, 14' or greater requires a title. Is the COA generally considered an acceptable substitute?

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 Post subject: Re: Paperwork?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:31 am 
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This is all stuff your dealer should inform you of.

Yes, the cassette plug, paddle, Lowrance ready parts are all included. Additional parts in red are loose...

PA12/14:

Standard Features

1 H-Rail Cup Holder
2 H-Rail Rod Racks
2 Plano® Tackle Boxes


8” Twist and Seal Hatch
Anchor Trolley System Ready
Boa® System Lumbar Support
Dual Steering
Front and Rear Carrying Handles
Horizontal Rod Storage for 4 Rods
Large Front Hatch with Removable Liner
Large Rectangular Hatch with Pivoting Tackle Management System
Livewell-Ready Cargo Area
Lowrance® Ready
MirageDrive with ST Turbo Fins
Molded-In Vertical Rod Storage
Replaceable Mounting Boards
Retractable Rudder System
Sail Mount
Tracking Skeg
Under Seat Tackle Storage
Vantage ST Seating

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 Post subject: Re: Paperwork?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:34 am 
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mmiller wrote:
The MSO is the ownership document assigned by us to the dealer. They would then sign it over to you to use at your regional registration authority if needed. Many places do not register kayaks, so not all dealers get their MSOs.

MSOs are delivered to dealers accounts electronically. They just have to download them these days.

Warranty registration has nothing to do with an MSO and does not trigger any return item to the owner. It just adds your data to our system for possible use in case of a recall or claim.

What about when we purchase kayaks second hand? Never got any MSOs (state that I live in doesn't require them to be registered thankfully).

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 Post subject: Re: Paperwork?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:41 pm 
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MSOs are only between the manufacturer and the dealer typically. Once to consumer level a registration / "Pink Slip" or bill of sale would be the document provided by the dealer to consumer. The MSO can be used by the original buyer to register.

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 Post subject: Re: Paperwork?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:52 am 
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Thanks for the help. My wife and now each have our own PAs. MSOs were printed up on the spot. I think we're missing the H bar rod holders. No big deal. We'll get it sorted out.

A couple more questions.

What is the kickstand?

Dealer told me about a new electric motor that will be in the $1000 range. Is that true?

Is a bilge pump recommended?


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 Post subject: Re: Paperwork?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:58 am 
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The kickstand has to do with the seat.....look in your owners manual...it shows this feature/adjustment/position.

I carry a hand operated bilge pump "just in case".....about $20 and cheap if you ever need it.

Welcome to the PA Club!

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 Post subject: Re: Paperwork?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:54 am 
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Dealer told me about a new electric motor that will be in the $1000 range. Is that true?


$1,219 for the MotorGuide Xi5 trolling motor. Fresh or salt versions. GPS and works with newer fishfinders for controlling the motor speed and direction. Really cool stuff. Goes to way points, hold positions, follows tracks set on a plotter.

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 Post subject: Re: Paperwork?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:38 am 
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Thanks for all the help. Both boats came with one h bar attachment, the cup holder. One of the kayaks, the PA12, was still in the factory shipping wrap. There are what look like adapters for smaller rods in the rod holders.

I really like the integrated design and technology of the Torquedoo, but the price point is too high. A chair reachable motor mount for generic trolling motors would be a welcomed upgrade.


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