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 Post subject: righting
PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:01 pm 
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MBounds wrote:
1 gallon of fresh water ~ 8.34 lbs

2 1/2 gallons = 20.85 lbs

155lbs!? :?

(1 gal salt water = 8.56 lbs)


My apologies,
I should have stated "about 2-1/2 ft3" not gallons. I calc'd with 1 ft3 water~ 62 lbs.


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 Post subject: righting solo
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:37 pm 
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I'm 6'1 225 and I know what you mean, it was hard for me to reach over the pontoon. I don't agree with not having to get it over the pontoon, I thought I really needed to do that when solo. The 220 sounds right, if you have a waterproof mast and boom, otherwise, it ain't easy. I'm getting a bag, I think. Also, for those guys that say to put gallon jugs on the top of your mast, please, spare the world and the Hobie name.


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 Post subject: Re: Righting
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:36 pm 
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skipper0802 wrote:
Athlon_Rulz wrote:
how do u recover from a turtle single -handed btw? i dont know how u can use the bag to ur advantage there? Usually with two ppl u just stand on the lip, in front of the rudder, on the leeward hull...bt what abt single handed?


With my line tied to the windward chainplate I leaned away. After a very short delay, the mast rotated to the horizontal. Unfortunately, I had only my body weight (168 lb.) as the counter-weight which was not enough to right the cat. A book I read says I need a minimum of 200 lbs. to right a 16. Hence the need for a righting bag over my shoulder. The one I built holds about 2-1/2 gallons of water or about (or about 155 lbs.) this will easily put me over the 200 lb. minimum. Testing on this method will be done once the winter's over and warmer weather arrives.
Cheers,
Eric


Oops, Sorry folks I should have stated "2-1/2 ft3" vice 2-1/2 gallons :oops:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:45 am 
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ottos wrote:
OK - here's my dumb contribution to the discussion


In two seasons of sailing a 16 I haven't had to right it yet. (the fiancee, now wife) panics if I start to fly a hull. I've read all about righting, but the one question that keeps nagging me is:

How do I reach the righting line when I'm standing on the lower pontoon? The boat has an 8' beam, and I'm 5'6"! :?:


OK - to answer my own question:

I went out with an instructor who gave me a slick solution that I haven't seen anywhere else: Tie a cord to the righting line on the port and starboard sides of the platform. (I have the 'Easy Rite' system) When you go over, untie it from the lower side and toss it over the high pontoon. Then just reel it in.

I guess this'll only work for boats with elevated platforms.


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someone here mentioned turtling problems. can't you just swim down and lift the mast up off the bottom?


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I want to meet the guy that can do that, I believe that task is the property of Aquaman. Nicks advice of going to the stern of one of the pontoons will recover from the turtle. This is much easier than even righting the boat. As far as the righting line, I have two foot lines tied to each side of my righting line that I flip over the pontoon and grab. I normally grab the righting line while I'm exiting the high side of the boat when tipping and it actually cushions my fall to the lower pontoon. Make sure your righting line is outside of your shrouds.


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I managed to turtle my 14 over the summer, it was only my third time out on the boat so I had very little experience righting, after fighting to get it unturtled we had drifted in to shallow and got the tip stuck in the mud.
I used to do some diving and regularly dove to 30 feet and once made 40, and that is not just diving and coming back up, I could stay down for a while.
So I figured that I should be able to dive to the tip lift it out of the mud and my friend could start righting. I started down and I quickly figured out that diving to 22 feet in a lake is alot different than 30 in the ocean. I couldn't do it!
So if you can manage to dive to the bottom and pull you mast up good luck, but I am in good shape and couldn't manage to do it.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:14 am 
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i'm sure i'll have the chance to try it someday. i know i can swim about a hundred feet under without breath, but i've never tried to swim more than fifteen feet or so down.

i won't be sailing in any lakes, but just out of curiousity, what was the difference that prevented you from diving in a lake as deep as you did in the ocean?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:59 pm 
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cyrano138 wrote:
i'm sure i'll have the chance to try it someday. i know i can swim about a hundred feet under without breath, but i've never tried to swim more than fifteen feet or so down.

i won't be sailing in any lakes, but just out of curiousity, what was the difference that prevented you from diving in a lake as deep as you did in the ocean?


The last thing you want to do is go underwater around a boat with line, wires, sails and other things that could possibly get you tangled in them.

When you flip (on any sailboat), swim around the boat to the other side rather than going under the boat. it doesn't take much to entangle you and in the struggle to free yourself you will drown quickly. You can only last small fractions of what you can do in a swimming pool.

Just a tip from an old Coastie :)


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First of all the water was pitch black, I couldn't see anything and unlike the ocean whne you start to dive down the water really changes temps. Don't dive around the boat!!!

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