Rudder Pins

I would like some help with rudder pins . Mine are held in with cotter pins and the rudders mangle the cotter pins when they are locked down . I have not seen another H-16 so I am guessing on a lot of things and the rudder pin set up just seems wrong . Thanks

A cotter pin like this?


If you have a anvil, or a good vice to hammer against, take a hammer and flatten it out on both of the legs tightly around the pin on both sides.

I use a "clip pin" I guess you could call it. one side is traight and the other has a small curve in it. I will get you the size info on it when I get home this evening.

Sam

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Sail Like you Have a Pair
Bluish gray 73 - 83 H16
Super Nice Yellow 84 H18

I am not sure which one is right for the 16 but I think you are looking for one of these.

HC 20501

http://www.mariner-sails.com/partdetail.asp?id=23499

OR

HC 20502

http://www.mariner-sails.com/partdetail.asp?id=23500

Scott.

Yup, that is what I use, just not exactly sure which size.

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Bluish gray 73 - 83 H16
Super Nice Yellow 84 H18

A cotter pin should work just fine, I've used them for years and looking at boats stored at the lake, they do too. I'm not sure of the size but here is my suggestion and how mine is set up. Fined a cotter pin so that about 1/4 of the head of the pin fits in the hole, that will leave 3/4 of the head sticking out to support the rudder pin. Now on the othe side, you only need to bend one leg of the cotter pin and just enough to keep it from sliding out, once you've bent it cut both legs off to about 3/16", again just enough to support the rudder pin.
I have a big can of cotter pins from Grandad and just picked mine from there but you can take the rudder pin to a hardware store and find a good fit. With 26 year in the auto business, I've seen all sorts of cotter pin configurations guys have done but it doesn't have to be that complicated.

I hope this helps,

Buxton

I use keeper pins since I prefer to remove my rudders when the boat is on the trailer.

I only use a cotter pin in the upper hole, nothing in the lower hole. Then just pull the rudder pin up and out to remove the rudders.

Buxton

As long as the tiller arms stay put and don't come unlatched when you go turtle, you'll be ok, but I have heard of people losing rudder pins when this happens.

sm

Actually had it happen to me. put a pin in both ends!!!!!!!!!

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Bluish gray 73 - 83 H16
Super Nice Yellow 84 H18

I almost lost a rudder pin a few weeks ago. Hard to say, what is more of a pain in the butt? Dealing with a ring ding on the bottom of the pin, or risking loosing it and sailing back in with a rudder sitting on the tramp. I'll have to try the "hairpin" style on the bottom.

That's a good point I hadn't though of and I will now put something in the bottom. I do sail with a bob on my mast so I don't rip my sails at Lake Arthur by going turtle, it happend on my 14T and I had to get them fixed.
So when I got the 16 I put it on and haven't been turtle to loose a pin, BUT....

Your never to old to learn, thanks

Buxton