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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:09 pm 
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I just got off the phone with a guy who is selling me a 1985 H16 with Aluminum trailer. In great shape. Sails like new. They are the dark blue fading to light red. How about $400!

Are you kidding me?

I don't get this lucky. I pick it up tomorrow. I'll post pics. So stoked!

Now I will still finish my project boat but I will have to sell her.

Happy as they get!

Maury

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:57 am 
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:lol: Check how soft the Hulls are, For that sought of Money.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:07 am 
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I know, right? :D

Trailer alone is worth that.

It does have a problem though. I has a 1 inch long hairline crack on the top of the starboard hull by the tramp post. The previous owner put some gray epoxy on it to keep it dry. I thinking I should back out of the deal....lol.

Really though, I have not seen this boat or even pics of it. I figure for that kind of money the owner could be lying to me all day about how nice it is and it still would be a steal even if it is in poor condition.

I'll post pics tonight. Woohoo!!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:49 am 
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Make sure the guy selling it actually owns it.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:36 am 
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I got one on a trailer for 450.00 - has soft spot (on one) and trailer... sail in decent shape - a 70's model I believe... Was tired (needs new tramp) but I've been pleased with it for a 2nd boat - I let my kids use it and save the 83 model for myself. Sounds like a good deal if the sails are like new.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:04 pm 
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Very good points. I will check for soft spots and ownership.

This guy knows people that race in our fleet. The owners of the company that makes the West System epoxy repair. So I think he is legit. Only 15 miles from here and I am picking it up at his house.

You can't be too careful though.

Thanks to you all for the advice.

I will post pics soon.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:36 pm 
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Good luck. Cant wait to see the pics.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:34 pm 
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Hi all,
Well the 16 was not as nice as advertised. What a shock. It has a galvanized trailer and not aluminum.

There is delamination and minor dings on this cat. Stripes and Logos are worn.

As you can see in the pic, the 1" inch crack was actually a 3" break in the topside, aft hull cap. It also had delaminaion for a good 12" of delamination from that break in the cap.

Long scratch on one hull. Chips and cracks all over.

I decided to buy it anyway. I am going to re-glass the major cap area and epoxy fill the rest. Then I will paint the rest with white Awlgrip that I bought that same night.

Good news. The trailer is great. The Hulls are solid.

Here are some pics of my latest project boat in my Hobie fleet.

Enjoy!

Maury

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:13 am 
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Most of that stuff is cosmetic - except the big boo-boo on the side that popped the hull/deck seam.

What you have there is a classic red glue seam boat - it's 20 lbs lighter than it's predecessors. At least it was before it was stored in the water (the waterline stain on the hull is a dead giveaway).

You also got adjustable rudder castings with it. Too bad he didn't have EPO rudders. You probably have the Lexan ones that were stock at that time.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:41 am 
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Yeah, its hard to go wrong for $400. Trailer is worth at least $200 and even a basket case Hobie has $200 worth of scrap aluminum.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:41 am 
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SCORE! Galvy trailer is worth that.

One suggestion, maybe two:

Just fix the glass properly, with polyester, re- gelcoat the repairs and forgo the Awlgrip. Painted Hobies look fine for 6 months, then they go dramatically down hill. There is really no paint that can withstand the abuse that a Hobie Cat takes while beaching, trailering, sitting in the driveway etc, unless you treat it like an A-class. You'll be much happier and save a bunch of $$$ and prep time by just repairing it right with polyester, glass and gelcoat. And...white hulls buff out in a big way! That's a good candidate to keep in stock condition.

Nice boat!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:40 am 
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Well here's the deal on the paint. The same day I picked her up I bought 3/4 gallon of Awlgrip for $75. I'm going to keep her covered and treat her nice after all of the resto my son and I are going to do to her.

So..... I already have the paint and I can just reshoot the bottoms every year as I'm going to break her down when I put her in the barn each year anyway. I'll just flip the toons upside down on some horses, sand and shoot a couple of coats on each. Shouldn't take long. I don't mind that. I like to inspect my boats throroughly when storing.

But if I'm seriously making a big mistake by painting I'll reconsider it. You should know that I will be dividing my time next summer between a pontoon boat, & a small fishing boat at the cabin on Long Lake. I also race on a J35 on Wednesdays. So I will have her covered and on the trailer ready to go and in the water and sailing only when I get a chance. I work full time so that MIGHT/HOPEFULLY means once a week. We will take her to Lake Huron sometimes, our inland lake mostly, and occaisionally Saginaw Bay. All fresh water.

With that info do you still think I will have a problem if I paint her?

I do appreciate the great advice!!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:34 am 
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If everything's solid and in decent shape (or at least, the major parts), then I'd agree, that looks like a heck of a deal.

Fix the damaged spots, give it a good cleaning, and a healthy coat of wax. I'd skip the paint if I was you. Just keep it clean, waxed, and buffed. In my experience, paint usually seems to make Hobies look worse. Why would you want to re-shoot with paint every year anyway? I've got an '85 that's never been painted and still looks half decent (in fact, at a regatta last weekend, someone asked me if it was new!)- I'd never paint it.

Take the paint back and put the $75 towards new tramp lacings, jib sheet, shrouds, telltails......

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:35 am 
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Painting a Hobie in the condition that yours is in, in my opinion, is a big mistake. Unless you do the prep like a pro, epoxy prime, repair the substrate to flawless condition, etc, It's going to eventually flake off. Then the first time you sail it it's going to get scratched and the 'yellow' gel coat is going to show through. They look great painted for about 6 months to a year, but then it goes downhill, and complicates repairs.

I won't even broker a boat that's been painted. It's one of the fastest ways to devalue a boat in my opinion.

But...people do it. So who am I to say?

I just painted a set of off-road rims flat black with AwlGrip and it's as tough as nails, just not tough enough for Hobies.

You've got a really nice boat though, and I"d think twice.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:28 pm 
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How are the sails? (got pics?) I;d like to compare to mine... I paid 450.00 - but mine was in MUCH MUCH better shape, so I guess I did okay on it.


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