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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:33 pm 
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Buying all new running rigging for my restore project....

So far i have
mainsheet : 9.5mm New England Rope Flight Line yellow, 43 ft
6:1 downhaul : 6mm New England Rope Fligh Line green 15ft

i need help with this:

Im ordering Harken 351 blocks for jib clew, im going to use 1/4 rope (correct?) but what length should it be???
im also purchasing the Hobie jib traveler adjustments with swivels and the low-profile jib block cars for my jib setup

Thanks guys!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:22 pm 
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Flightline is OK for a mainsheet, but the polyolefin cover will probably degrade faster than you want. It'll get "prickly" and stiffer instead of fuzzing up and getting softer like polyester / Dyneema blends. 9.5 mm (3/8") is a little large. 8 mm will run through the blocks better.

New England Bzzz Line is a better call, and at $0.72 / ft for 8mm, a lot cheaper than Flightline. New England Salsa is also a good call; still cheaper at $1.39 / ft for 8 mm. I've used both and they've held up well - gotten better with use in fact.

Harken 351s are too big for the jib sheet if you want to go low profile. Harken 224 Micro Blocks are what come with new boats:
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32' x 1/4" is the size of the stock jib sheet.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:34 pm 
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huh...harkens website lists the 351 as standard stuff!

did they mess up???

Matt-

i switched to 8mm bzzz in yellow/white

i also switched jib blocks like you said, and got 1/4 in rope....

now all i need to double check is length for the 6:1 downhaul....15ft sound about right?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:48 pm 
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Harken wants to sell you blocks, not necessarily what you need. The 351 block is sexy and twice the cost of the plain old 224. Make sense now?

Like I said, Flightline is OK, but I'd find something else to spend the WM card on. You can get twice as much Bzzz for the same $.

15' is a little long for the downhaul, but it's better to go a little long and then trim it off.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:57 pm 
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yeah i edited the post as you were writing yours...i searched for buzz on WM website (didnt show up), then i realized its Bzzz line....so i found it!

using the extra money to get a davis telo-cat windvane and some new gloves.....

thinking im going to go with 12ft for the downhaul

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:34 pm 
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so i went and bot some stuff at west marine today, and went and checked out the line...

is 1/4in REALLY what comes stock fo the jib sheets???

that line seems WAY WAY WAY too thin?!?!?!?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:11 pm 
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1/4" is not necessarily 1/4"

Most line today is metric. 1/4" = 6.35 mm. Most manufacturers offer a 6 mm line and call it 1/4" or an 8 mm line and call it 5/16", when it's really a little bigger than that.

The line you want for a jib sheet is 7 mm Bzzz.

The stock line on new boats is Liros Magic Speed - 6 mm (I think - looks a lot like it)


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:46 pm 
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Well damnit. Just sent an email to West-Marine to cancel my order...i ordered 1/4 line for the jib sheet...

so that is:


44ft of 8mm Bzzz line for the Main
32ft of 7mm Bzzz line for the Jib
10ft of 6mm line for the 6:1 downhaul
27ft of 4.8mm line for the main halyard

will 7mm line fit throught the harken 224 blocks?????

MAN! Rigging a boat is confusing! Why can't the world just use METRIC!?!?!?!?! AGH!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:04 pm 
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s30series wrote:
will 7mm line fit throught the harken 224 blocks?????


Yes.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:48 am 
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s30series wrote:
Well damnit. Just sent an email to West-Marine to cancel my order...i ordered 1/4 line for the jib sheet...

MAN! Rigging a boat is confusing!



You know what would really help you out? Calling a Hobie Dealer that knows their stuff and does this all day long. And I can guarantee that most of us charge less than WM. On most items, especially line, shackles, and harnesses, we can save you $$.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:37 am 
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i would- but i have a large giftcard, and ive got a $10 off coupon, and a $20 off coupon, so all this line cost me pretty much nothing 8)

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:26 am 
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s30series wrote:
i would- but i have a large giftcard, and ive got a $10 off coupon, and a $20 off coupon, so all this line cost me pretty much nothing 8)



Sweet! Nothing is waaaay less than I would charge! :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:19 pm 
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Actually Jeremy, i did order some stuff from you last week! remember?!? and i never got an email and my card wasnt charged!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:29 pm 
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s30series wrote:
Actually Jeremy, i did order some stuff from you last week! remember?!? and i never got an email and my card wasnt charged!!!


I know, that's why I was ribbing you. :lol: Waiting for 1075. Charge when ship, prob Thurs.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:30 pm 
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s30series wrote:
Actually Jeremy, i did order some stuff from you last week! remember?!? and i never got an email and my card wasnt charged!!!


I know, that's why I was ribbing you. :lol: Waiting for 1075. Charge when ship, prob Thurs.


whats the 1075??

ohh and i got my Bzz line today...it looks good, but there are two spots where its been frayed and some of the strands are coming out :twisted:

going to return it to get more!

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