Q for Matt new hulls for 1980h16

HI, I was wondering if a new set of hulls from hobie would fit my 1980 h16? I figured this woud basically give me a new boat for a lot less.
Do the new hulls come with the gundgens and other hardware?
Would I have to upgrade to the newer rudder castings and rudders etc?
Thanks,
John

Hi John,

Email me a note regarding this.

I might be able to help you in a round about way.

Talk to you Monday am.

John

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hobiejohn at earthlink dot net
Fleet 297

This may be of interest to many with older boats. What is the cost of new hulls? I certainly see the logic.

In the hobie catalogue the hulls run $2,044.00 each, which is up quite a bit from about 4 years ago. But if I have to replace a lot of other stuff it may not be worth it-rudder castings, rudders etc. I believe my current rudders are fiberglass, they seem to weigh a lot and and seem more solid than the blades I have looked at on newer hobies, kind of make a harmonic sound when they are tapped, the previous owner said they are racing blades, but I do not know how to tell, they have a circle with a letter E on them that you can see when the rudders are raised.
I fixed delamination a couple of years ago on my hulls, but I am looking at the difference between painting them and replacing them. The hulls are sound but need an little bottom work and has a machinedgunned look from all the filler holes on the sides of the hulls- delam was on the sides, the boat is yellow so matching gelcoat did not work very well. I may just paint the repaired area with a different color to make the boat two-toned Has anyone ever had an auto repair shop paint their hulls? What kind of paint would be best to use with a brush? I have a garage and the boat is in a storage unit- but it has a grave floor. Prep themselves and have the body shop shoot the paint? If I did it myself I would probably have to use a brush to repaint, I don't have experience with spraying. I am a artist and I have actually thought of doing a paint job in Jackson Pollack style-"Splatter Painting", but I am not sure how that would work and the variety of colors would just add to the cost- but it would be a cool idea! But it would probably make the hulls too bumpy.
Later,
John

I considered new hulls, but when I see a 2005 hobie 16, misty sails, used only 20 times and always covered, with cat trax, trailer and 2 harnesses go for $4050 on ebay today. I almost bought it and I already own two 16's. I had to deal with that little devil on my shoulder saying, buy it, buy it! Some bike manufacturers have a deal where if you crash the frame you get a "crash replacement" at about half the cost of a new frame. I would like to see hobie do something like a "delam replacement". I think the problem is, it has nothing do with selling new boats. Am I the only one that thinks delam is a design flaw?

Warranty? We're talking about boats that are over 25 years old.

Did you notice the 2005 boat minimum was $6K? Still a good deal.

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Fleet 297

Warranty? Who said warranty? I'm just looking for a little help. My point is why buy replacement hulls when you can buy a barely used boat for almost the same price? I've got a friend that has a 99' with soft spots.
The hulls inherently take on water and that back breaker of draining them after each use....and that spot where 90% of all delams start, the spot that begs to say "step here" while boarding and unboarding. You can call it sour grapes. I know selling hulls at a sellable price, doesn't sell new boats, but chopping my hulls up and parting my boat on ebay is a strange alternative.

Or change manufacturers

Wow, you all are just cruel, it is odd to hear trey not saying something about chopping boats up.

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Nacra 5.2 "Elsies"
Hobie 14T, "Blazin" I guess I am keeping her!

I would not consider delamination as being related to a design flaw. You have many different types of construction. All have their purpose. Solid glass has to be thick to be strong... heavy. Polyethylene is heavy. Laminated glass and foam is light and stiff. That has been the preferred system for decades and still is.

Delamination can be caused by a defect in the layup, but it is more commonly caused by abuse.

Delamination is also curable.

We have actually had zero claims for delamination in as long as I can recall. It does not make much sense to make reasonable cost replacements available for 25 year old boats.

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Matt Miller
Former - Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Warranty and Technical Support
Hobie Cat USA
(Retired 11/7/2022)

HERE HERE!!! How many other boats out there last 25 - 30 years, with as much the AVERAGE 16's get?

As for replacing the hulls on an older boat with brand new ones, don't bother, get a new/er boat. I purchased a brand new 2005 16, and with the newer rigging / hardware it was WELL worth it.

I myself had no problem plunking down the cash, knowing that the boat itself could very well last 30 years (Heck I'll be 62 and my kid will be donating the darned thing if I keep it as long as my original 16.. Hardly something to sneeze at.

Just my 2 cents, actual milage may vary as they say.

PS (Matt delete my follow up response, can you belive it? I found the EDIT button.....)

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How many other boats out there last 25 - 30 years, with as the AVERAGE 16's get?

Was supposed to read. With as much abuse as the AVERAGE 16 gets.

Just upgrade to a newer boat. we just had a 96 sailed a total of 10 times on sale for 2k in my area. it came with all the go fast stuff and only needed the sheets replaced.

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Tom & Nancy Page H20 803

Tom,

You must admit that was HIGHWAY ROBBERY!!! I won't see the boat in person 'til this weekend but it's got to be worth almost twice that easy! Poor gal needed the money and all, and I guess she didn't loose anything on the deal, so shows if you're patient there are boats out there.

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Fleet 297