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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 5:32 pm 
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Good evening everyone.

I just purchased a 1989 Hobie 16 from a neighbor. My wife had been wanting one for a while, and this was so convenient that we couldn't say no.

The boat is in very good shape for it being a 1989. Sails are only 2 or 3 years old. Boat has a jib furler system up front. I ordered new main and jib sheets (new england salsa), a new main halyard and halyard line, and a 3:1 downhaul system. Hulls are ok, have a few minor soft spots that i intend to repair here soon. Trampoline is in good condition, shrouds all look good, and the blocks all look good.

We have been out on it a few times, but i have a question that I can't seem to find any info on.

We live on a lake and we have our own dock, so I have a feeling we will be sailing a lot.
My question is, what does everyone do at the end of the day with the main sail when they are done sailing. Assuming we will be sailing the next day, should I be taking the mail sail and boom off each time? Or should I just wrap the sail around the boom, leaving the boom in the mast and letting it hang. My concern with this is the weight its putting on the rudder assembly.

Also, from reading on here, i see its not advisable to try and dock this thing. They are made to be beached. I ordered a mooring ball and anchor, and will set it up about 20 feet off the dock, and then just paddle in once the sails are down. Already have had a few close calls trying to dock it.

Thanks for the help in advance, I look forward to learning everything I can from the experts here on these forums.


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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 6:33 pm 
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Unless it's really inconvenient, I would just remove the sail and boom from the boat entirely and store somewhere safe on land. Otherwise, I would roll up the sail from the head down and with the boom still attached to the foot of the sail and lash them securely to the tramp.

There are other things that need to be considered as well. The standing rigging can take a beating if the boat is left on a mooring and the mast is free to bang around. I would make sure you keep the rig tight and figure out a way to limit the mast from rotating. You also have to consider that the hulls may start to absorb water and/or develop growth on the submerged surfaces if they are not protected with bottom paint. These boats really don't like to be left in the water for extended periods.

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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 7:26 pm 
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I agree with srm's comments. The sails should be removed and allowed to dry, and then rolled from the head to the boom. The jib can lay on top of the main and roll up inside. You should consider loosening the battens, but if the sails are old and already stretched, this is not critical.

If you can pull it on land with the mast up, that is a good way to store.

Get a large tramp bag for gear, and a small one for halyards. Rigging becomes quick and easy.

Have fun!


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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 7:41 pm 
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Thanks for all the replies.

The hulls do have bottom paint on them, since the neighbor always left it in the water. No real way to pull it up on land on the lake since there is a wall about 3 feet high around the lake, its a man made lake.

I believe the prior owner when not using it, just left the mast as is, no effort made to limit it from rotating.

I will take the boom and sail off from now on, at the end of the day. The prior owner had a rope tied up to the attachment point of the jib, and he would use this to support the boom and I believe he would just wrap the sail up and sit it on the boom.

Its not a big deal to remove the sail and boom and store it off the boat. The jib gets furled and he has a snorkel for it I can put on it for times when I will not be using it for a while.

Thanks for the help.


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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 8:27 pm 
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8 or 9 pcs of 8', 5/4 porch decking and an 8' piece of 1 1/2" pvc pipe builds a nice sturdy stand to put it on every day and it's easy to tie down to. then you can use the jib sheet line for securing the mast to one side and the jib cleats to keep all the cables tight.
You can make a stand entirely out of metal pipe that is nice and sturdy also. I tie mine out sometimes when I'm taking a break during all day sailing, but no way I'd leave it overnight, one good storm in the night and no telling what would happen to the boat.
Once you hoist sails a dozen times it gets to be pretty easy.


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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:50 am 
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greensnopro, got any pics of the stand you built?


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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 4:29 pm 
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I'll get some good ones this weekend before I put it in the water.


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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 7:42 pm 
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Mast rotation - bang preventer

Put the hook end of a shorter bungee cord through the (step) hole in the mast base
Pull the mast forward, against stop of mast step, and while keeping tension on
Route bungee over the front crossbar, around the dolphin striker post
and hook it on the center lacing of the trampoline.

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 12:00 pm 
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You should be able to dock your boat. I've only sailed off a beach once, every other time I've trailer launched it and sailed away from, and returned to the pier. No different than any other sailboat.
Of course, some piers are easier to sail off, and return to than others! I often use my little outboard to getaway from a motorboat pier because I don't have room to launch off.

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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 3:58 pm 
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Sorry, didn't go that weekend but here they are,.....[img][IMG]http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y363/greensnopro/IMG_4995_zpswh8ailnx.jpg[/img][/img]
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 4:04 pm 
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I tried to post 3 pics, not sure if once you click it you can see all my pics or i need to do them one at a time, let me know what you get to see since when i click them it logs me in to my account so of course i see everything


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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:35 pm 
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As for the original question on how to treat the sails. You basically want to keep them out off the sun and weather when not being used. So it would be best to have a rack on a garage wall or some sort of clean dry space. Cover your jib with the snorkel so it's out of the sun. The sun will bleach and dry rot your sails if they are left on the boat.

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 11:21 am 
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greensnopro, thanks for sharing the hobie rack design. That looks great and I am sure it would work well for my lake as well.

By the way, in your photobucket were a couple of pictures of a bumper mixed in with the Hobie pics. I have to guess, 67 Bonneville?

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 11:34 am 
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68 firebird convertible. I was posting on the first gen firebird forum to get new mounts for it.
The pics of my main sheet is next, I'm trying to find out if I have it right ? It has an extra pulley at the top and I'm not sure if I did it right?? It works okay but ,.....???


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