Rudder cam adjustment screw

I KNOW I have seen this info somewhere, but have beeb searching for an hour and can't find it, so I'm re-asking the question-

I am re-building the rudders, and need to get the plastic screw out of the rudder housing . I need to do this cause, no matter how hard I try, I cannot get the ball that locks the cam into place inserted from the top end, and besides, the adjustmetnt screw on this 25 yr old boat is (1) frozen solid, and (2) needs to be tightened to increase lock down pressure on the cams.
I drilled out the old plasic screw insert, but there seems to be some residual plastic stuck in the threads, that I have not been able to get out- Any suggestions, or can someone point me to the post that deals with this? If I have totally messed up by druilling the screw insert, I have another one I can start from scratch with.

Thanks. I am pretty frustrated with this issue.

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Raced extensively as a kid (against Matt Bounds!!), just bought a 20 year old 16 and am refurbishing it.

Sail # 21888

Use a 3/4" x about 8" bolt.
I have cut diagonal slots in one to use as a tap.
I would also heat it up for the first few passes if you still have some plastic left over.
Then run it through a few more times with some oil to clean up the threads.
Use some water proof grease when installing the new screw.

Also, you can heat up a large screwdriver and insert it at a 90 to the stock slot. Sometimes you can get an old screw to move with some time and penetrating oil.

Who's this Matt Bounds guy anyway??
Alos know as Mastt Dounds.

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Pat Bisesi
Fleet 204 Syracuse, NY

Take a torch and melt the plastic threads out....be carefull derlin is very very very toxic....place a fan blowing away from u!!!!!!!! and dont get the fumes in ure eyes or lungs!!!!!!!!!

then buy a 3/4 inch continuous thread rod...cheap at any hardware store and make ure own tap by cutting an "X" on its tip.......cut it to a proper lenght (about 12 incles long) then screw it in and out to clean the threads......weld a "T" handle to it for easier handling or just use some vise grip pliers to grab it while turning

The galvanized 3/4 inch rod has standard threads that match perfectly with the thread pattern of the casting....dont go looking for expensive taps that are long enough to reach the casting threads .....

take the casting to the hardware store and check ureself for the correct thread rod size....

Grease the casting threads and put new derlin screw in........

OK, I've taken care of that problem for good now. No more bridle bolt problems on the 14.

Rock Bell (and his sister Vickie) used to regularly kick my ass in the H-16 class when we were teenagers.

Rock - next May, you need to put the MadCatter Regatta on your schedule. Weekend before Memorial Day. It's not much further for you than it is for me.

You'll get to met smart-ass Pat and his lovely wife who has been crewing for me lately.

Pat - look out - I have a new secret weapon and her sail number is 110404 . She got completely put together this past weekend. I may be bringing her to Canandaigua if I sell the Tiger before then.

Tap size is...

3/4" - 10

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Matt Miller
Former - Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Warranty and Technical Support
Hobie Cat USA
(Retired 11/7/2022)

Thanks to all... and Matt, your'e right, I did regularly wax your butt in the 1970's... but would not want to tangle with you now!


Tt is amazing how high powered that little Hobie Fleet at FBYC really was in te late 70's.. several nationals finalists (4 by my count) , 2 Worrell 1000 veterans (and one winner- not me), a national champ...who would have thought?

My biggest sailing adventures lately are teaching my 13 yr old daughter how to fly around the front of the boat in a pitchpole in 25 mph winds.. That will teach her to tell dad his sport is "wimpy"!

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Raced extensively as a kid (against Matt Bounds!!), just bought a 20 year old 16 and am refurbishing it.

Sail # 21888

Don't forget that we used to race against Gary Bodie, who's now the head coach of the US Sailing Team.

If you want to see a real high-powered 16 fleet today, you have to travel north to Syracuse (home of Mr. Smarty Pants Pat Bisesi and the MadCatter Regatta), where they will regularly pull 15-20 boats out for Thursday evening fleet races.

They start their kids early, too - here's Tom Korz and 12 year old daughter Erika at the windy 16 North Americans in Alameda a couple of weeks ago:


That was only a week after winning the 16 Women's North Americans with her mother, Sue:

Matt did you get a new boat?

Yeah, I let Rob Jerry talk me into a new one at the Mini-Mega. Not that I needed much encouragement.

Downside is that it may not see the water until next year.

matt, how did you post those pics? you can answer on my other email address

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Raced extensively as a kid (against Matt Bounds!!), just bought a 20 year old 16 and am refurbishing it.

Sail # 21888

I'll throw in here, if not for rbell, for anyone who might wonder the same thing...

1. Find a site that allows for picture uploads, I believe there are several floating around.

2. Upload your pictures

3. Either navigate to the pictures themselves (http://picturesite.com/user/picture.jpg) or if using IE right click on the picture to get the URL

4. Come back here and paste the url into your message. Where you want to picture to appear

5. Highlight the URL you just pasted in and click on the URL button above the message you are typing. This will add "tags" to either end of the URL.

6. Hit submit and your picture will show in your message.

Hey Matt what are some of the things you do when you assemble your new boat?i(i.e do you put anything on the pylons,do you epoxy your boat)

Thanks, Doc Thirst. I had gotten past the first part, but all I had been able to do is post the url in the message. Maybe I;ll see if I can dig up a picture of a 13 yr old Matt Bounds as my first attempt.

On another note, this posting had the incredibly cool result of netting me a call from none other than Mike Worrell himself (of Worrelll 1000 fame). suggesting that I get a 3/4 tap from my local equipment supply store, for about $22. Mike is renovating an old hobie as well, and has been playing in the surf jumping waves on it. He also told me, and I don't think he'd mind me sharing this, that he ran into Joe Lungwitz a few weeks ago. (The two teamed up to win the 1978 Worrell 1000) and spent a few hours sailing in the surf togther. ...first sail together in almost 30 years.... how cool is that? Joe grew up a 1/2 mile from me, and was another other member of that powerful Fishing Bay Yacht Club fleet on the Chesapeake.

I am happy to report the 3/4 " #10 rod I bought last night worked perfectly. Thanks to all for the help.
Rock Bell

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Raced extensively as a kid (against Matt Bounds!!), just bought a 20 year old 16 and am refurbishing it.

Sail # 21888

Hey, Matt, I was thinking about that Gary Bodie reference.
I may be the only person to get Gary to DQ himself on a port/starboard call when he was on starboard. It was blowing 20+, we were on port, Gary was ahead and to leeward. He tacked to starboard... as soon as I saw him tacking, I eased sheets and bore off to go below him, but hit him, flying a hull, amidships. My leeward bow missed his rudders, but the port bow rode completely over his trampp- almost knocked Gary off the boat. Almost took my sisters head off on his mainsail....
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He yelled at me at the time, but by the time we got to the beach, he thought about it, and withdrew. He is a very classy / gentlemanly sailor.
Norfolk Naval sailing Assn regatta, 1977.

Might be a good idea for a thread--- wacky things that happened while racing.

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Raced extensively as a kid (against Matt Bounds!!), just bought a 20 year old 16 and am refurbishing it.

Sail # 21888

I still have my trophy from that regatta on the wall in my home office.

Interesting that you heard from Mike Worrell - there are lots of people on catsailor.com that would like to have his head. Lots of fallout from the collapse of the last Worrell 1000 (involving thousands of $ in un-returned entry fees for a race that never happened). All you have to do to create a s--tstorm on that forum is mention his name.

Mike - I'll start a new thread on what I've done to the new boat, but to answer your question directly, I don't do anything to the frame on a new boat. New boats are tight. My old boat (a '98 ) was so tight that I could never get it apart. It also never leaked. I kind of felt bad about trading it in because it was such a good boat.