Over night trips how do people 'pack'

great pic!!!

The problem is this is how my wife would like to pack for an overnighter; leaving me no room

I will have to find more drybags.

Being in Narre Warren we needed them last week (flooding and all). There is a great pic of a kayak in our local rag down the street. Wjo would have thought flooding in half the east coast of Australia; and it is ment to be Summer

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Paul, Rebecca & Stephanie

As has been covered, lots and lots and lots of small drybags over large ones. If you can get them, get the all clear for foods etc, clear strip is good for clothes etc, solid colors can be used for colorcode bedding etc. Bedding I like to double bag. Split clothes between at least two different bags, same with food. Agree with Yakass re bulky stuff up front and heavy to the rear. Centre I used for daly nibbles, drink, pump, first aid, lures etc. Extra water needs to be in several bladders, 2 or 3ltr pack well. Place them in the bottom of the hull first and spread the load from front to back but not all the way forward. Do not store any fuels inside the hull, fuels should be stored on deck. I also prefered to avoid eskies, instead using cold storage bags again, in hull if I had room. With a shorter leg stroke, I was able to stow a small day bag in the front of the foot well infront of the pedals this was where I kept my fuels.
Try not to lash anyting to tramps, if the wind picks up and you need to roll the tramps up, you won't be able too.

If you have gear on the windward tramp you shouldn't have to roll the tramps up. The TI is much more forgiving than the AI regarding the tramps. We have been out in 30+ knots and haven't felt the need to roll up the tramps. Furling the sail to prevent a capsize is much more effective when the wind picks up.
We don't lash to the tramps but we do carry drybags on them, leashed back to the hull and swapped on tacks.

Fair enough stringy, I have not sailed TI so probably should not have comment, being able to move your load from one side to the other with minimal effort, is a good idea. I do however, like to minimise the amount of gear on the outside of the hull, in case of capsize, also for a more streamlined affect, one of the reasons I stopped using creates and esky's. Having heaps of gear outside of the hull;
(1) Really does change your kayaks centre of gravity, making it harder to re-right.
(2) Increases entanglement possibilities.
(3) Reduces streamlining and increases wind drag/drift.
If mounting anything in the rear cargo well, I prefer using drums with a sealed lid. Even when full of light camp gear or clothes, they remain relatively buoyant, which adds a small amount of lift under the hull in the case of a capsize. Which I "think", would help when trying to right the kayak. The rounded sides also make them a little more streamlined. The only other stuff I carry in the rear well, is my scuba gear. It has a fairly low profile and I inflate the BC so it is positively buoyant in case of capsize.

My experience is that on high wind days on an AI the tramps can trap wind underneath them when the windward ama rides up over a wave causing the blow-over. I am sure that furling could help but not necessarily stop the blow-over that happens in an instant.
Having said that I spent this afternoon setting up my custom skirt/half tramps on the new dune model. I have it now so I can roll the tramps and just use the skirt, or both skirt and tramps, or safely rolled away around the from akas. I will report on my success or otherwise when I test the rig out in the near future...Pirate

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