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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:29 am 
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stringy wrote:
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Tony I was hoping those great looking (and solid) haka you made might be getting a workout sometime?

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Funnily enough, the answerr is yes, buty stand by for something different... I have almost finished my Watersnake outboard mount >on the haka<. Here is an in-progress photo.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:28 am 
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Sunchaser_SWMI wrote:
Thanks for all the replies everybody - what a great community we have here! So it seems the consensus is to reduce sail size by furling or hike out. That makes sense. For the folks that hike out - are you using a hiking stick when on the starboard side of the boat?

I had a small metal broom stick laying around. Just so happened that the bolt for the tiller handle knob fit perfectly in the plastic notch used to hang the broom. I've used it for almost 2 seasons now. Much cheaper than the $60 hobie hiking stick.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:48 am 
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I have a system like the one your describe, but mine is I the form of a 9 year-old girl who likes to jump from one trampoline to the other as we are underway.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:00 pm 
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jerinaldi wrote:
I have a system like the one your describe, but mine is I the form of a 9 year-old girl who likes to jump from one trampoline to the other as we are underway.


Haha - I'll be following your lead in a few years. My little girl isn't even 4 yet, and I'm not ready to take her out on Lake Michigan without another set of hands. But that's a great longer-term solution :)


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:43 pm 
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jerinaldi wrote:
I have a system like the one your describe, but mine is I the form of a 9 year-old girl who likes to jump from one trampoline to the other as we are underway.

Best solution! :)

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:54 pm 
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Sunchaser_SWMI wrote:
That makes sense. For the folks that hike out - are you using a hiking stick when on the starboard side of the boat?

I'm using a hiking stick on both sides of the boat Sunchaser!
After breaking the Hobie hiking stick early on I tried a lot of alternatives but I am back with Hobie's stick again and have had no problems with the replacement stick. As no one else has reported problems, I must have just got a dud cable. It has proved reliable in the last 18 months of use. I like that the cable is more flexible than the normal tendon type hiking sticks used by Lasers etc. The Hobie stick can be laid parallel with the hull, handle towards the stern and there is enough flexibility to steer from the rear seat when the wind drops, without disconnecting the stick from the forward handle. That's a big plus over the tendon sticks I was adapting here viewtopic.php?f=75&t=50285
This has reminded me to update my earlier post that was critical of the Hobie stick. I'll do it now.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:09 am 
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I'm the kind of guy that likes everything on my boat to have two or three purposes. My hiking stick is a simple piece of 3/8 dia PVC water tubing about 3 1/2 ft long with two small holes drilled sideways on one end then a small loop of paracord rope tied thru the holes. My steering handles have the Hobie knobs installed, I just slip the loop over either steering knob and walla, I've got a hiking stick (around $2 bucks in materials), I've had the same stick for about 4 yrs now. When not using as a hiking stick I slip the stick vertically into a mount I made on my motor mount in the rod holders that I clip my white night time light onto (I have the Atwood Led light system with the white lite at the back and green/ red lights at the front where I mounted the clips that hold the lights. I also clip my dive flag to the pole when we are scuba diving and snorkeling.

I keep a couple sets of lights in the dry box in the forward compartment, then if I get caught out at night, I just clip the lights onto the boat at night. I also keep a couple good waterproof flashlights on board just in case.
Once we were off shore near Key Largo Fl and couldn't get back because of offshore winds till way after dark, we had the running lights but no flashlights, we couldn't find our launch point (everything looks the same at night), ended up using the key fob for our car to find it (lol).
Since widening the boat, I haven't had to hike out at all, no need.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:53 pm 
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fusioneng wrote:
Of course you could alway have a little bladder tank on each ama, then have a tilt able hose that you can lower to fill up the tank with your forward motion, the when you want it to drain tilt it either backwards so it's trailing or jus lift it out of the water and let gravity do the rest. However 50 lbs of water is a lot of water, we are talking a 5 gallon pail volume wise, that a lot. You could maybe use large diameter rubber tube so it would fill up like a water balloon, you can probably get a lot of water in a ten ft long 2" to 3" tube.
May add a dump valve at the back so you can drain quickly.
I actually thought thru all this stuff when I added all the extra sail area to my TI (260 sqft) because the AMA's no longer had enough flotation to keep the boat from flipping unless you hike out on the tramps. What I ended up doing instead was widened the boat by extending the AMA's by on foot on each side. Doesn't sound like much, but just that one foot wider doubles the capsize force, so now my boat is pretty much uncapsizable even with both my 33sqft jib and main full out in 15mph plus winds. Plus the AMA's no longer go under water at all, they just plane on top of the water creating very little drag (if any), the only seem to create a lot of drag when they are mostly submerged. Also because the AKA bars are mounted at an angle, when you move them out, the boat cruises with both AMA's completely out of the water.
This ended up being my most bang for the buck mod.
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Hi FE, how did you extend the AKAs? I bet there already a thread on that.
Thanks!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:37 pm 
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I think I posted pics on the ultimate Island thread. Pretty simple really just ordered four 18" long pieces of alum tubing, hack sawed the AKA bars in half and inserted the tubes. Best mod I've done IMO. Not sure how neccessary though without massive sail sets, might be overkill on a stock boat (dunno, never ran a stock boat).
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