Is it time for separate AI/TI boards?

Sorry, you'll have to wait for his reply in the new TI side, if you're let in.

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Hobie Island Sailing since 2006

That's good, KB, real good.

Keith

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2015 AI 2, 2014 Tandem

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex ... It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." A. Einstein

"Less is more" Anon

I'll pay that !

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Don't take life too seriously................it ain't permanent.

Hey Slaughter, if you've sold your boat and you're still mulling over whether to order a 2011 AI, what are your chances of having a boat in time for the Sydney Harbour day on April 17th. (I gather from your earlier comments that a TI is not on the menu).

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...Hellllooooooooo Helllllooooooo...anybody there????...Pirate

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Master of the galleon 'Pirates Lot'

All should be good Chris. Just waiting to make sure the transfer of the old girl goes through OK before I pick up a new one. Yeah I was just after anyones thoughts on the TI's dagger design and if it's good enough to get the nod for the next AI upgrade. Any thoughts anyone ?

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By and large, the dealers don't carry new boats in stock, so you have to order one and it can take a week or two to arrive.

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Sorry for the delay Slaughter. I did post a reply earlier but it must have got corrupted. I like the TI daggerboard concept but it would not delay me from buying one now. I like having the cavity exposed as I can use the hole at the end as a fishing rod holder for one thing, and mostly I leave the dagger board at home anyway unless I am wanting to point as high as possible on the wind. The mirage drive mostly does the trick for me with the fins in the vertical position which is fine for all but the purists. Another thing I don't know whether that design will leach across to the AI anyway as the TI is a fair bit beamier and my first instinct is that the AI might not be able to accommodate the system. Could be wrong. I would not let it delay a new boat acquisition by any more than a day my friend...Pirate

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Thanks mate. Decision made.

( you're not on commission are ya ? )

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Australian Hobies have dagger boards instead of centerboards?


Why? Daggerboards can't swivel up if you hit something. That wouldn't be a good idea here in the land of uncharted coral heads.

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Same here mate with uncharted shopping trolleys.

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Gringo, if you are asking why we use the terminology 'daggerboards', it is simply that centreboards are positioned through a recess that lies along the centreline of the hull, while a daggerboard can be located anywhere.
If you are asking why they do not swivel up when it makes contact with the bottom, well it does. Or maybe I just missed your point entirely...Pirate

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Master of the galleon 'Pirates Lot'

This has been dealt with previously. If we're going to be pedantic, the Hobie board isn't strictly a centerboard, because it's not in the center, nor is it a daggerboard, because it swivels. So both names are equally applicable (or not).

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Quite simply put Chris I did not understand the question and was not trying to be pedantic but attempted to answer it as best I could as I saw it. Now I am beginning to understand what Gringo was alluding to, that is why do we Aussies call it a daggerboard while others call it a centreboard. Anyway that a given, there must be much far more important stuff to discuss....Pirate

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Master of the galleon 'Pirates Lot'

yeah, I was kinda poking at you.

But the definitions are not ambiguous at all. Centerboards pivot about an axis. Daggerboards are shoved straight down into a block and are held rigid and do not move at all, except to be inserted and removed.

It doesn't matter where on the boat you put it, if it swivels up it's not a daggerboard.

Or if it is a daggerboard that's swivelling, it's a broken one.

And the fact that you have 'dealt' previously with something doesn't actually mean anything much, near as I can tell. Other than that the question you thought you had 'dealt' with is still around. Undealt with.

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