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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:39 am 
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We had 3 Dragoons. They were originally bought by a few members of Div 3 to do the youth sailing thing as I said before. I sold one to a 15 year old kid 2 years ago and he shows up at some of our regattas still. These boats had the tramp launch spi, it was before the days of the snuffer.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:43 am 
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Karl said about daggerboards:

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You just pull them up. No big deal, unless you forget.

I found this article by Jeremy Evans from 2001 at www.yachtsandyachting.com/coachingtips/ ... eNumber=24 about FXOne daggerboards.

I like his advice:

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...sail in predominant and predictable deep water. If you are blasting across the shallows and hit a mud bank with boards down at something near 20 knots, it’s not going to be nice for you or your boat.


Further down, on righting a capsized boat, he says:

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This is an important issue with singlehanded cats if the weight of the crew is insufficient to pull the boat up.


The discussion at catsailor on righting an FXOne that I mentioned earlier went like this:

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Hobie FX-one righting, I couldn't do it at 6 foot 2 and 82 kg's (182 pound) clean. (weight without wet sailing gear, which I was wearing at the time) The boat was very unimpressed when I hung flat on the righting line. With a H16 I can move the mast up a little but the FX-one felt like a rock.


From http://www.catsailor.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Test&Number=2553&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=3&o=&fpart=1

However, this European was trying to right the boat in light wind, plus he sounds predisposed against the FX anyway. This post is also from 2001.

Notice mention of righting poles in several places. Especially this one at catsailor:

http://www.catsailor.com/pole-install.html[url]

Also, there is a post on this forum (don't remember exactly, but let Google do the walking...) about recycling old pole vault poles.

In reading around, I note my questions about various models seem to be very typical for a buyer with a family.

But I'm still drooling over the FXOne!

My question about daggerboards was really a hull config question. The 16 and the FXOne and the Getaway are about the same length, weight, and so on, but the FXOne does not have the same hull config that makes the daggerboards unnecessary.

It is kinda hard to tell about this distinction on hulls from the advertising on these boats. I see now that the FX has rounded hulls (doh). If I lived closer to the coast, I'd have noticed this while looking at the demos, which I haven't had a chance to do yet.

Evans made this comment about hulls and centerboards:

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However, Hobie says it is still not easy to make a symmetrical high aspect foil that is sufficiently light and sufficiently stiff and will stay straight under load, with a leading edge that’s tough enough to be ding-proof.


This is hull engineering statement of some sort that probably relates to the daggerboard/asymmetrical hull issue and is well out of my league. I defer to Hobie engineers.

Approximately 6 hours left on the bidding for the Dragoon. Last bid at $5200. A lot of money for a 2001 boat!?

At this point, I am scouring the net for used Hobies before looking at new boats. I will take my used Hobie questions to the for-sale section of the forum, if I have any.

I will note that there are a lot of choices at various locations and many are a hoot. Possibly will post a few pics if I get time.


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I used to poke around in the shallows alot with the 16. I don't think I'll be doing that anymore. You just have to be carefull. Same goes for anything that doesn't have parts that kick up. Motor boats too! Props are expensive! :oops:


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Noticed a nice Dragoon on ebay. Check it out, search item 170285988614.

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