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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:02 am 
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While cleaning and applying Penetro to the boom, I noticed a very faded sticker on both sides for the Barber Hauler. Also, on the 21SE parts PDF it shows three clam cleats, one for the outhaul, one for the mast rotation, and the other I assume for the barber hauler. The location of the label is basically centered on the boom.

Can anyone help with the rigging of this? Pictures or diagrams would be great? I thought I understoof that the barber hauler was for shaping the jib, but now I am not sure. Does other SE owners also have this third cleat and if so how is it rigged and for what?

After posting the above I also was reviewing all the literature that I received with the boat and actually saw a picture with lines coming from the middle of the boom to the hulls. I forgot to bring the picture to scan and post, but will do so tomorrow.

Basically it appears that maybe the position of the boom could adjust the barber hauler? Has anyone seen or have more ideas on how this may work? I guess it could be fairly easy to have a two pulley rigging that would go from the boom to the windward hull then to the leeward hull in front then to jib sheet to pull out. The farther you have the boom out the farther the barber hauler would pull the jib out. You can adjust the tension on the boom cleat or release and have no affect on the jib sheets.

Does anyone have this rigged on their boat? As always pictures are worth a thousand words.


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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 12:42 pm 
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SRM (from the 21SE/SC forum)- you got it right. After looking at the picture more closely it appears to go from the barber hauler cleat to a pulley on the boom and then to the jib sheet. This appears to be able to pull the jib sheet closer to the main and thus closing the slot. Might be worth playing with on this wide boat.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:38 pm 
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In the ProSail series no one ever used a barber hauler. The boat is so heavy and the centerboards inefficient to the point that it's ALWAYS faster to foot. I can't think of a single set of conditions where it would be worth the trouble to have that extra stuff to deal with on the boat. You might be able to get the sails in the slot but the boat will have a lot of leeway. Sideways is slow.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:08 pm 
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What do you mean the boat is "always faster to foot"?

I have been a short board windsurfer for 30 years and know what not being able to head into the wind means and this boat definitely tracks similar. If I get the jib traveler set correctly, with the two tell-tales breaking at the same time, and then trim the main to the upper tell-tale, I definitely feel I need to sail to the main tell-tale and not the jib, because I think the jib should be inboard to have the tell-tales flowing correctly. Maybe this would help this situation.

Since I am only a recreational sailer, this all doesn't matter as flying beam reaches are great! :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:47 pm 
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I also sail anything that floats and some things that don't. Faster to the windward mark or any point upwind.

The stock sails didn't work together the best upwind anyway. The ProSail rules didn't allow any "reshaping" of sails but I found out after it was all over that the ones who passed me upwind did "repairs" to their mainsail. The sails work together a LOT better with up to 3" more luff curve up top where the comptip is. We recut one of our sets of sails and the difference is remarkable.

You can get your wings in the air more efficient to point higher pretty easily, but you have to have wings in the water to suit. The 21 doesn't come so equipped.


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