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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:06 pm 
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I occasionally rig by myself too.
Bottom line for me, at age 48, is : is it fun, if so, proceed, if not, find something else to do.

Everyting in sailing is relative... my only pont is to show people how to rig faster IF that iincreases their psych. if it doesn't, no worries.

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If I've transported the boat, it usually takes me about 45 mintutes......


It it happens to already be rigged and sitting in the mast up storage lot, it takes me about 15-20 minutes to get on the water.



With that said, I usually show up an hour and a half before the race. I take my time setting up and then sit on the tramp and eat a sandwich while watching everyone else rig.


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15 Minutes ??? :roll: After getting to the beach, it would take me that long to get out of the car. :lol:

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DavidBell47 wrote:
15 Minutes ??? :roll: After getting to the beach, it would take me that long to get out of the car. :lol:


You got me beat! :lol: :lol:

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My 10 year old son and i rigged ours in the driveway a few days ago for practice since i am still new to this and we did it from start to finish in about 45 min or so. My rudders are attached. The only prob we have is him hooking up the forward stay quickly.....So i wind up on the tramp for about 15 to 20 min holding the mast in place. A little annoying but he is only 10 so have to cut him some slack.

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No beach. Just a concrete ramp. There's a 10hp limit on Hueston, so I usually don't have a line.

I hop out, get my jib up and let it flap in the wind.
Back the trailer in.
tie the boat off.
Park the car.
Raise the main and I'm off.


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Thump, try adding an additional forestay adjuster, adn a quick release pin- should shorten that 15 minutes down to 30 seconds. When my daughter was 10 thats what I did, it helped immensely. Doesn;t matter how floppy the rig is before the sails go up.

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rbell, Thanks for the advice that is something that i never would of thought of. Right now he just wants to sail and do no work at all. I told him that if he wants to learn how to sail he has to do some of the work its only fair!!!!

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thump690 wrote:
rbell, Thanks for the advice that is something that i never would of thought of. Right now he just wants to sail and do no work at all. I told him that if he wants to learn how to sail he has to do some of the work its only fair!!!!



True, but that does not you can make the work easier on both of you. At 46 years old, I am fortunate that I can step the mast completely by myself if need be. I much prefer having help, but....

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Thump, if you look at the last post by Mbounds under "wind indicator reading", you can see what 2 forestay adjusters put together looks like. Matt has elegantly tied a piece of shock cord between the 2, which keeps the loose forestay wire away from the jib, so the telltails don't hang up on it. I have sailed many years without the shock cord, and it works ok either way. Matt is not as lazy as I am.

The other thing that slows me down when stepping the mast is untangling the forestay wire, from around the shrouds/ trapezes and handing it to the crew. One way to deal with that is to take a bungie cord and attach it to the forestay wire, and clip it to the cleat on the mast... you have to play around with the length of the bungie a little... then when you have the mast fully upright, the crew unclips the bungie from the forestay, and just pulls it forward and attaches it to the forestay adjuster.

Its a small "tweak", but can reduce the frustration of a young kid trying to untangle wireswhile you are holding up the mast.

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I guarantee the guys that say they do it the fastest are the same ones that forget the drain plugs most often. :D I can understand constantly moving and doing something, but some of those times are nascar pit stop material. You'll never catch me going for a speed record setup when I'm headed 5 miles out in the ocean.


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Buzzman,

I agre completely with your assessment.

I should have added that after each sail, I check all my rigging for frayed ends, cracked nicopress fittings etc, and drain the hulls, then replace the drain plugs. and before leaving the driveway, check drainplugs, missing cotter pins, etc.

I have dropped a mast offshore twice from nicopress fittings failing- definitely ruins your day!

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One thing that helps me (to not forget the drain plugs) is, I have one of the smaller Hobie tramp bags with all of the smaller parts in it that I need to rig the boat (Rudder pins, stepping link, drain plugs) and a larger bag with the blocks, gloves and other items. One of the things I most often forget to do is right the main traveler car control line with the end of the main sheet the next most forgotten item is the downhaul, but that is becoming less and less of a problem.

I have forgotten the drainplugs twice, I wonder if anybody would admit to doing it more than that.


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Speaking of drain plugs, be sure to check those if you've left you boat on the beach for a while. On a weekend sailing trip in Santa Barbara, CA and sailed off the beach Friday all day, but on Saturday, after being out for 20 minutes I had rudder trouble and returned to shore. While fixing the rudders I also noticed a drain plug hanging out its hole, and the hull was plenty full of water. Did someone sabotage my boat? Who knows?, but I learned to check everything before shoving off like that again.


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Well we took the 16 out for the first time today and it took us about 45 min from getting to the launch to putting in to rig the boat today so i figure for the first time doing in the water it wasent to bad. not to much wind today though did alot of bobbing but for the first time it wasent bad got a few good runs thought i would be rusty but it came right back after 13 years of no sailing!!!!

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