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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:04 am 
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Im looking for a wall mounted rack system to hold 2 Passport 12.0 during the off season. Any recommendations?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:36 am 
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I have used the Malone "JDock" (https://maloneautoracks.com/JDock-TM-Hybrid-Gear-Storage.html | https://www.amazon.com/Malone-J-Dock-Hybrid-Garage-Storage/dp/B000SXN90M) for extra wall-mounted boat storage for about 7 years without issue. They're rated for 200 lbs total, so two Passport hulls certainly won't be a problem, and the lower sling-style mounts with cam buckle webbing straps allow for easier solo loading/unloading from the floor, even for a kid. There are plenty of other options these days, but that's the model that seemed to best fit my needs and I haven't been disappointed!
My heavier Hobie hulls are currently mounted in various Harken "Hoister" overhead storage lifts (https://www.hoister.com/productcategory.aspx?taxid=645) since I don't have much free wall space, and the installation is a bit more-involved for those but could also be a good option as you expand your fleet or may want to load/unload directly from a vehicle as well. Hope that helps!


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:20 pm 
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I would be wary of the j mounts for passport storage, everything I have seen from hobie recommends storing passports upside down on rails and suggest supporting with cross bars ,e.g two 2x4s from rail to rail on saw horse. My guess is because they are thermoformed versus rotomolded. The manual also suggests to "hang upside down with wide strapping", but it pictures hoops, not straps so I find that a little confusing.

I think the harken hoister saltyjoe suggested looks awesome, and for me worth the $120 I saw on amazon to get a yak out of the way; you can even use it to lower onto your car if in garage. But after considering and looking at my passport and garage, I noticed that the seam on passport where the two halves are squished together is wider than the rails. Makes me wonder if more pressure would be applied to seam versus rails using this system. (I would have already bought off amazon tho if I had a compass). I have also seen somewhere on this forum where the straps need to be fairly wide, but you could probably search for that.

Someone who knows hobies told me that it shouldn't be an issue to stack two passports on top of each other upside down on the 2x4 method for overwinter storage. We are considering getting a second and will use this method if we do. (for what its worth: before getting mine I saw the dolley carts people made for their hobies and thought it looked like a lot of time versus sawhorses - but after seeing all the space mine took up, I made a moveable cart out of an old long ottoman frame and it is great to be able to move in, out and around garage)

I realize you might not have the space or be storing indoors. Maybe a big shelf unit on wall would work? You could store yaks on top and have storage shelves underneath? Somewhere I have seen wall hangers that store yaks perpendicular, I think on this forum so with a little search you may be able to find. good luck


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 12:46 pm 
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As Kswim mentioned, the upside-down orientation is ideal for long-term storage (unless the hull is supported underneath the chines via hull cradles or bunk racks while being stored cockpit-up), and the rolling storage cart option is certainly worth considering if you have the floor space and/or may want to just roll them outside the garage whenever you need extra workspace, etc.

Before moving to my current home (where I use modified hoisters with bunk racks) I had built a makeshift storage cart for my Hobie Islands and their accessories. Essentially they were made out of some old oversized moving dollies, scrap deck lumber, and two HFT 'portable work stands' serving as the risers/crossbars. Initially I stored both upside-down, with the AI underneath and the TI up top, but later added some PVC bunk rails to both levels so it was easier to work on them and store their accessories with them as well.

I did a quick search to see what sort of simple /sturdy horizontal wall mount options were on the market these days (thinking it may be easiest to modify a lumber storage rack), and came across this set that definitely looks promising:
StoreYourBoard 4 Kayak Storage Rack, Wall Mounted Indoor Garage Organizer, Holds up to 400 lbs.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07V4G9NST/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_4XYB8NBW8B099Z54GW58?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
You could always add some extra padding (foam pipe insulation or otherwise) too, but as always, the easier it is to access/ re-stow your gear, the more often you'll be able to enjoy it!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:25 pm 
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I use a harken hoist and some unistrut to hold my Compass upside down on the ceiling of my garage during the off season.

I use these J-type hooks from Suspenz to hold my non-Hobie on the wall. They incorporate webbing straps to prevent hull damage. Make sure they're bolted into studs, fwiw. Hope this helps. https://suspenz.com/collections/wall-rack-storage/products/deluxe-rack . The video on that page shows a Hobie mirage drive as the example.


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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2023 7:06 am 
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I just put up storage for 4 hobies (compass, revo, lynx, and passport) using the Koova wall racks. I am quite happy with them.

Product site
https://koova.com/collections/kayak-racks/products/wall-mounted-kayak-rack-for-three-kayaks

Photos with and without Kayaks
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0WGWZuqDGY3usW;F8A38119-1205-4786-8857-CCE8DF1B86A6


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:00 am 
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saltyjoe wrote:
As Kswim mentioned, the upside-down orientation is ideal for long-term storage (unless the hull is supported underneath the chines via hull cradles or bunk racks while being stored cockpit-up), and the rolling storage cart option is certainly worth considering if you have the floor space and/or may want to just roll them outside the garage whenever you need extra workspace, etc.

Before moving to my current home (where I use modified hoisters with bunk racks) I had built a makeshift storage cart for my Hobie Islands and their accessories. Essentially they were made out of some old oversized moving dollies, scrap deck lumber, and two HFT 'portable work stands' serving as the risers/crossbars. Initially I stored both upside-down, with the AI underneath and the TI up top, but later added some PVC bunk rails to both levels so it was easier to work on them and store their accessories with them as well.

I did a quick search to see what sort of simple /sturdy horizontal wall mount options were on the market these days (thinking it may be easiest to modify a lumber storage rack), and came across this set that definitely looks promising:
StoreYourBoard 4 Kayak Storage Rack, Wall Mounted Indoor Garage Organizer, Holds up to 400 lbs.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07V4G9NST/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_4XYB8NBW8B099Z54GW58?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
You could always add some extra padding (foam pipe insulation or otherwise) too, but as always, the easier it is to access/ re-stow your gear, the more often you'll be able to enjoy it!


I'm interested in some kind of wall rack for three or four kayaks. I have two Outbacks (each about 34 inches wide max), a Revolution (narrower) and a Compass (in between) The StoreYourBoard system looks strong and easy to install, but I wonder if 27 inches is enough to support the Outbacks. It will depend on where along the hull the racks are located. What do we know about Hobie's recommendations for where the supporting racks should be placed?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:50 pm 
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Don46 wrote:
What do we know about Hobie's recommendations for where the supporting racks should be placed?

Manual depicts about 25% and 75% of length in https://www.hobie.com/support/mirage-outback/


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:19 pm 
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I use Bonnlo Kayak Wall Mount Rack because of price and 32" bars (seems widest in its price range). Works fine for my 3 Revolutions. I assume ok for Compass and Outback.

Beware of getting 4 kayaks on rack because unless 1 is a Lynx or paddleboard then may not fit space wise and likely would come close to weight capacity. In theory Bonnlo rack fits 4 kayaks but in practice only fits 3 Revolutions in part because must allow extra space so front hatch (which protrudes) does not bump kayak below it. Good news is can fit 4 kayaks by put rack system higher off floor and put bottom yak on cinder blocks with 2 boards so not part of the rack system per se. Plus 1 kayak underneath would be less strain on rack weight capacity.

I use 48" spacing since studs are 48 and that about fits the general rule of 1/3s for where to put crossbars. Of course racks will be same width for all but thats only an issue if have really long (13') and short (9') yaks on same rack. Also must consider any kayak protrusions like the bungee cord holders so they dont get in the way. I guess could have any spacing if put rack into drywall (might not be secure) or add extra lumber to the studs and screw racks into the extra wood.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:47 am 
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I have been using the Suspenz Deluxe Rack, mounted to the side of my shed, to store my 2021 Outback for two seasons now (summer and winter in Massachusetts) with no issues. The build quality is solid. It's side-storage on wide straps, but I remember researching this before purchasing and found indication from Hobie (perhaps on this forum) that it's an approved storage device/style. Obviously storing top-down would be the absolute best, but I didn't have the space.

https://suspenz.com/collections/wall-st ... eluxe-rack

They also have a nice PDF detailing all the options and how they work for each brand: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1844/ ... 5335678607

Suspenz also makes a flat rack for top-down storage: https://suspenz.com/collections/deals/p ... rack-deals

(photo is not my kayak, but to give you a picture of how it is stored in the Deluxe Rack)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:54 pm 
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ckline wrote:
I have been using the Suspenz Deluxe Rack, mounted to the side of my shed, to store my 2021 Outback for two seasons now (summer and winter in Massachusetts) with no issues. The build quality is solid. It's side-storage on wide straps, but I remember researching this before purchasing and found indication from Hobie (perhaps on this forum) that it's an approved storage device/style. Obviously storing top-down would be the absolute best, but I didn't have the space.

https://suspenz.com/collections/wall-st ... eluxe-rack

They also have a nice PDF detailing all the options and how they work for each brand: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1844/ ... 5335678607

Suspenz also makes a flat rack for top-down storage: https://suspenz.com/collections/deals/p ... rack-deals

(photo is not my kayak, but to give you a picture of how it is stored in the Deluxe Rack)
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@ckline I appreciate your photo of how you use the Suspenz Deluxe Rack as side-storage for kayak. It looks like a very solid and sturdy solution.


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