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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:42 am 
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Is the Hobie protectant product by McNett "UV Tech" reccomended for the sail as well?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:08 pm 
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That or 303 should work just as well. We all swear by 303 on our sails.
That and the sail bags.

Or else you will get this:

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:49 am 
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:shock: :shock: :shock: That is bad!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

How old was your sail before it started to do this?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:27 am 
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Thanks NOHUHU,
I have a little 303 left in a spray bottle that I used to use on my '03 Mirage Tandem; I never thought of using it on the sail though. I think from what your saying if either are ok, I'll spend the extra money and get a bottle of the Hobie UV Tech for my new TI.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:56 am 
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I am still unsure how often this needs to be applied?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:02 am 
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Normally once a year, but in Hawaii or with lots of use I'm figuring 3 to 4 times a year.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:38 pm 
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Thanks for that; we (Australia) are just coming into Summer and as of Friday I am on holidays for 6 weeks. Sail Sail Sail, I had better put it on :wink: :wink: :wink:

I have a plan that 6 weeks by 6 days (I need to spend 1 day with the family; that gives me 36 days good sailing. Lets hope the weather understands my need to get out on my new TI :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:29 pm 
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Paul67 wrote:
:shock: :shock: :shock: That is bad!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

How old was your sail before it started to do this?


2 years of regular use and outdoor storage in Hawaii. No maintenance. :roll:

The new sail (1 year old) is holding up and treated right, so to speak, w 303.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:01 pm 
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As the new owner of one or the rattiest used AI's on the planet, I am no stranger to the UV coatings. I have tried everything from the Hobie boat cleaner, together with Hobie/McNett "UV Tech", 303, Armor-all, WD40 and the like.

In my experience, UV Tech offers no "better" protection or restorative powers over 303. To be certain, I put them to the test last week.

I coated 1/2 of one heavily weathered Ama with each product (and alternating bands on the other AMA), then I watched them for several days. (I rubbed in liberal/equal amounts of each UV product). Finally, I took them out for a serious sail.

The UV Tech is watery and wants to run and drip. The 303 spreads and coats the plastic more efficiently due to its thicker, lubricious formula. I get the feeling the same amount of 303 goes further and could be the less expensive of the 2 to use, if all else was equal. (I think the Hobie product is already more expensive/oz, but others can check this). If the UV Tech is truly being "absorbed" then it would also require a bit more to achieve full coverage.

Once fully coated, both sides look decent, with deeper color and some added shine. The 303 looks glossier though and once dried looks and feels more like a hardened, protective polish/wax.

After 1, 2 and 3 days of drying in the shade the UV Tech gradually loses its shine and depth. The 303 treated plastic still appears red, rather than pink.

I sailed and fished for 4+ hrs Sunday on the north shore of Oahu. Steep beach/surf entry followed by 2+ ft seas and eventually 3-4 ft swells for about an hour. It was sunny and hot. The boat was pounded most of the day and it was a very wet ride for me. Surfing downwind was fun, but edgy at times.

Landed, loaded and transported. After freshwater rinsing the boat at home I checked out the coatings.

They looked virtually identical, with perhaps slightly more fading in the UV Tech sections. You could no longer make out the distinct bands, but the 303 half showed a little deeper red on the really weathered tops of the Amas. Several days later (in the sun), the results are the same.

So I have to conclude that 303 applies, beautifies and protects a little better than the UV Tech product. I only wish I could purchase it in the larger bottles to save $$, but no one stocks those here. (maybe Lowes?)

My ride is an extreme example of what the intense sun can do to our plastic boats and sails. You can try this test on your own boat, but 303 is the best product I have found so far for treating and protecting my Hobie's aging skin.

So far, so good on the sail too.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:34 pm 
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thanks for doing that.

I must say it would have been hard getting out in the water in Oahu, just for us :lol: :lol:

I will make sure I treat my TI today. It is cold 13C and rainy so no sailing :cry:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:53 am 
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The big question I have is if either of the protectants made the tops of the amas slippery. This is a critical issue. The tops of the amas and top of the main kayak are designed to have a certain amount of grip to allow one to stand on them without too much fear of slipping off. Does application of either of these defeat that?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:20 pm 
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303 WILL make the plastic slippery, but who is standing on your ama and when?? :shock:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:57 pm 
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Well, I was leaning on them yesterday, out on my bench seat in stiff winds. I can confirm that the 303 (which I use after every sail) was NOT a problem. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PS - you see my bowline getting ripped off? That's a good day,..

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:58 pm 
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NOHUHU wrote:
I can confirm that the 303 (which I use after every sail) was NOT a problem.

What are you drinking the stuff?? :o :shock: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:07 pm 
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I couldn't afford it!

On a related note, I coated the Amas with WD after that sail yesterday, to test the difference.

It makes then really look nice, but I am wondering if there is anything harmful in there that would dry or weaken the plastic long-term.

Any chemists or Hobie engineers out there that could advise on the downside of using WD-40, other than making the hull too fast :wink: and watching it slide off your racks at 60mph?

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