rodrocket wrote:
Lt.FireDog wrote:
Knogg,
thanks for posting the video, we can talk all day about self rescue, but your video is the real deal.
Also, thanks for coming on the forum and giving us more insight to the situation.....we can speculate about the circumstances surrounding the event, but it's all hotair till we hear it from the "star" of the video.
Again, Thanks!
So,
No Hobie "gurus" are forthcoming with any observations as to why this has happened in conditions which may well be experienced by any PA owners other than "it's all just hot air" until the "star" makes comments.
That's actually not very helpful. It's also meaningless.
What the hell does that mean ?
It just seems to be a simply accepted process with, yes, strong winds 25-35 knots and wind waves to match
Corey (bless his soul) maintains that his Hobie PA12 behaves like this in crap conditions as standard.
What are we to assume ???????
We own craft that will not tolerate these conditions ?
These conditions can occur (obviously) at any time !
The rudder system will not give adequate control in a wave ?
Expect to capsize ?
Our craft have a inherent deficiency in these conditions ?
Do we only use them if conditions are less than what is shown in video ?
Hope to god conditions don't ever turn to crap ?
Do we have our heads buried in the sand and ignore the issues before us ?
I'm sorry, I love my PA/s, but nobody has come up with any excuse/explanation/reason to satisfy my own concerns with the ctaft behaviour in this event, which I think is a problem to anyone who is out there in the elements on a PA12.
Cheers,
Rod
Obnoxious little thing aren't ya!!!!
I Think your rocket fuel is stale.
Take your 35knot winds and place them in a sail where the belong. As far as the hobie gurus are concerned they all seem to point out the PA isn't an ocean kayak nor was it intended to be. I knew that and stayed close to the launch and in the mildly protected cove area that the west cape ramp sits in.
The below warning that I just found that I had no idea about and now reslise my biggest failure was searching more extensively than the previous relied on websites and weather channels I had used. As this was issued that morning at 4:30am
I don't feel I need to prove anything to poor old rodrocket (bless his faint little soul) but I do beleive the bonus is it removes any validity to the self inflating manner in which he is arguing (trying) with.
My point is the 90km/h granted I claimed 50 knots surely I'm allowed a few as grace
I copied and pasted the main body of text with the direct link further below.
Source: Bureau of Meteorology
for people in the North Central, Central and West and South Gippsland forecast districts
Issued at 4:43 am EDT on Friday 25 January 2013.
Weather Situation
A cold front over southwestern Victoria will extend to central and eastern areas during Friday morning and afternoon.
Damaging winds averaging 60 to 70 km/h with peak gusts up to 90 km/h
are forecast for parts of the North Central, Central and West and South Gippsland forecast districts, particularly about elevated areas.
http://www.ewn.com.au/alerts/2013-01-24 ... 65.weatherI still love the PA and like others using them have found many similar attributes to what I've outlined and in no way is it a criticism. Park a PA Next to any Ocean kayak and you can soon see the vast design differences. I have absolutely no hesitation in future upgrading to newer PA models in the years to come.
Cheers Corey !!!!