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 Post subject: First look at the new TI
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:29 pm 
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Just got it home last night and today wanted to set it all up to get a close look at every thing, so thought I'd share some photos. Can't wait until we can take it on a maiden voyage.

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Looks like I may be removing the venturi so it will sit properly on the PVC cradle.

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Setting it up at the shop. Great Outdoor Provisions Center, Raleigh NC.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:07 pm 
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Thanks for posting those pics Drewyaker. 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:14 am 
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Wow that is verly cool ! Excellent pic
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I have it on my need list not my want list
Will keep Y-all posted

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:18 am 
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I wouldn't remove the venturi just to fit your PVC bunks - You'll miss this feature - rather you should alter your trailers (remove a section from the top of the PVC to allow the venturi to sit down - trust me, it's a great feature you don't want to lose. Also if you remove the fairing there will be no plug at all, the system requires that fairing to even have a cap - so you'll be taking on water in the seat area without it.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:00 pm 
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Would the venturi also interfere with the TI Cradles if you were to slide it off a trailer with cradles and onto the TI Dolley. I don't like dunking my trailer in the salt water due to then having to replace the bearings every year?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:24 pm 
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Snakebite1969 wrote:
Would the venturi also interfere with the TI Cradles if you were to slide it off a trailer with cradles and onto the TI Dolley. I don't like dunking my trailer in the salt water due to then having to replace the bearings every year?


They do a little bit - but not a big deal. there is a new cradle design that we are just starting to ship now that has a modified shape to allow for the venturi drain to more easily slide past the cradle without getting hung up. But it's more of a hassle than a real issue.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:56 pm 
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stringy wrote:
Thanks for posting those pics Drewyaker. 8)


Your welcome. stringy. I'm glad to finally have it. Can't wait until we can take it on it's maiden voyage. Nuong want's me to wait until she "can" go.... ( warmer water, sunny skies, perfect temp... etc.) :roll: ... but it might get snuck out one day soon to ... umm...
"test" it 8)

In the mean time, just adding the basics like drive leashes, hatch leashes, more hatch buckets, extra rudder pins, steering knobs , a compass, and so on. One thing I wish was there, a Hobie screw in pad eye behind the front seat to leash the rear drive to, but no big deal to add a standard one with a backing plate.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:38 am 
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Jbernier wrote:
I wouldn't remove the venturi just to fit your PVC bunks - You'll miss this feature - rather you should alter your trailers (remove a section from the top of the PVC to allow the venturi to sit down - trust me, it's a great feature you don't want to lose. Also if you remove the fairing there will be no plug at all, the system requires that fairing to even have a cap - so you'll be taking on water in the seat area without it.


Actually I already did remove them, but for the purpose of not distorting the hull wile it sits upright on my existing PVC cradles. The cradles I have it on fit my AI, but until I get a new adjustable set made up for the TI, I feel better with them off.

I plan to sail with them solo and tandem, installed and off just because I'm curious to see what happens and how well they work.
I will also try with the top plug only. It can be reinstalled by using a length of 3/8 ss rod with drilled holes corresponding to the hull inserts and proper length screws to anchor a plug bungee... so plan to experiment with that too, but if we start getting enemas after 6 knots, then I'll put everything back and make PVC recesses once I know right where I want the boat to sit.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:37 am 
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I love your trailer and wondering if you could let us know how you painted it.

I keep hearing mixed reviews on painting galvanized boat trailers (I assume yours is by the look of it). I have a 16ft Loadrite trailer and would like to paint it.

Thank you!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:43 pm 
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Jbernier wrote:
Snakebite1969 wrote:
Would the venturi also interfere with the TI Cradles if you were to slide it off a trailer with cradles and onto the TI Dolley. I don't like dunking my trailer in the salt water due to then having to replace the bearings every year?


They do a little bit - but not a big deal. there is a new cradle design that we are just starting to ship now that has a modified shape to allow for the venturi drain to more easily slide past the cradle without getting hung up. But it's more of a hassle than a real issue.


Jbernier-I just ordered a tandem island cradle set from ACK here in Houston for my new 2015 TI. How do I find out if it's the new design you are talking about or if I'm being sent the old one. If possible I'd like the new redisigned one.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:42 pm 
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If they have to get it from us... it is the new. If in their stock... it is the old. We will fix any older versions by offering to swap out one cradle. You only need the new one in the rear position.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:42 pm 
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Hm... I've set up a SUT-350-S trailer with three cradles like Ezra / Sun-E-Sailor did. Got two sets of cradles and I'm pretty sure they were shipped to my dealer last week (last week of January). What should I look for to be sure I have the new style?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:51 am 
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You have the old style...

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Ask the dealer to request another rear cradle.

That said... there is no "real" problem here... just a bump as the drain passes the rear cradle I am told. Easily managed according to the guys who have been using the boat hear all this time... on the original cradles.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:56 pm 
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Vabeach2 wrote:
I love your trailer and wondering if you could let us know how you painted it.

I keep hearing mixed reviews on painting galvanized boat trailers (I assume yours is by the look of it). I have a 16ft Loadrite trailer and would like to paint it.

Thank you!


Thanks Vabeach.

The trailer was originally for a john boat and is made of steel, so after prep, just off the shelf Rustoleum high performance spray primer and blue paint. That way when needed, can just respray over any dings if they happen.

The originally for an AI PVC rack rest on flat bunks and is removable for when I want to carry other kayaks. Now that I have a new TI, will have to build up another trailer for those bunks as the TI will now just live on this one with a new PVC set up, or if changes are in place for those venturis, may just go with the Hobie cradles instead.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:37 pm 
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mmiller wrote:
You have the old style...

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Ask the dealer to request another rear cradle.

That said... there is no "real" problem here... just a bump as the drain passes the rear cradle I am told. Easily managed according to the guys who have been using the boat hear all this time... on the original cradles.


After further reading, seems I will be better off leaving the new drains in place and going with the Hobie cradles since there is now available a revised rearward one. As for any concerns of the cradles depressing the hull in summer conditions because I'd like to leave the TI stored upright year round, it occurred to me that the cradles should be lined up with the scupper holes as the drain channel connects from deck to the hull's bottom giving top to bottom support in those areas. The problem is , at least in my case, was being able to line up the cradles exactly where they need to be since usually the trailer frame limits how far apart the cradles can be placed unless one wants to do some welding and other custom fabrication.

Plan A was constructing a new set of PVC rails using unistrut as cross members and their channel nuts to secure allowing easy adjustability of the PVC width from each other. So why not scrap that idea, and turn the unistrut long ways on the trailer therefore allowing cross members to be adjusted any where forward or aft, and bolt down the Hobie cradles to those. That way ther is no one fixed position and I can line up the cradles any where I want under the TI, and adjust in unison to determine how far forward the boat is on the trailer in the case I want to add side mounting cargo boxes forward of the amas. There will also be a one or maybe 2 V bow guards on a sea saw like set up with height adjustment up front to further spread out the weight.

Perhaps may add 2 rollers on a sea saw set up extending from the back for easier launching and loading as opposed to the original single one for my AI.

Here is a link to what unistrut is.
http://www.unistrut.us/index.php?WP=S00_Channel


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