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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:57 pm 
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In this topic we'll look at tandem sailing and compare solo sailing from the front and rear cockpits

Setting up: Very similar to the AI, the boat can be assembled before launch easily by attaching the akas and amas. Of course, if you have a trailer, there isn't much set-up at all. I like to step the mast and rig the sheet and furler once the boat is rolled into the water.
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Notice the aka braces attach behind the aka and are best accessed from the rear cockpit.
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They may also be set up from the front cockpit by sitting side saddle and reaching back. The bungee attached to the aka above is used to secure it to the side of the boat when the amas are collapsed -- paddle bungees are no longer employed for this.

Sailing tandem: Someone forgot to schedule the wind when we went out. But that's the beauty of having a couple of Mirage Drives -- you can make your own wind!
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We headed out anyway and picked up a light breeze about 1/2 mile away (out of camera range). It was a very peaceful and uneventful sail -- I should have brought the wine and cheese. For its part, the tandem was very comfortable, handled well and glided along nicely on the light breeze.

The next crew member brought a little more wind and we put the boat through some tacks, jibes and various points of sail. The boat tracked well on reaches, carried good momentum through the tacks and was quite dry.
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You can really feel the stability of the boat. I had no trouble standing up to take a couple of pics from a different viewpoint.
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Later I sat in the front seat and we finally got some wind. I liked the front seat view as we clipped along. With an increase in the wind I got out on the tramps and lounged around. Handling the mainsheet from the tramp is not a problem. Here's a view from the tramp of a pair of AIs chasing us
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Speaking of speed, the AIs in the area gave a rough measure about comparative speeds. IMO, the TI seems to be about as fast as the AI with both crew sitting in the cockpit. In higher breezes with one out on the tramp I think the TI has an edge in speed.

Solo sailing from the front seat: It works, but seems to make the nose a bit heavy. Certainly no control problems or sailing issues, but I think it could be a little wetter and it's harder to watch the telltales. There would be less rudder authority downwind in a rolling sea.
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Solo sailing from the back seat: This could reflect my own bias, but IMO, the back seat is place to do it! The weight of the amas and akas forward mitigate the need for any balast, the view is great, you're in very dry territory and the bow will lift for planing at about 9 to 9.5 MPH.
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Of all the sailing modes, this is the best and fastest (and obviously my favorite)!! Who needs a passenger? It's like riding on a magic carpet -- hard to wipe that big cheesy grin off your face!

There were some good wind gusts over at Lake Hodges yesterday -- not the most ideal sailing. Yet, the TI handled everything under full sail. Here's a picture of an ama. Note how clean it cuts through the water. I wasn't able to bury one (would have in the AI).
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Here's a picture riding a boat wake (just can't say no to those things)
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Cruising in Mission Bay:
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Overtaking larger sailboats wasn't much strain:
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With one person aboard the boat is definitely faster than the AI, is very responsive, accelerates quickly and yet feels totally under control -- solid without feeling heavy. In other words, if my crew member shows any reluctance to go out sailing, I'll be out the door before they change their mind!

The only gripe I had was a tendency for the boat to drift left without constant rudder input. The rudder may have been hanging up on the edge of its locking seat. This wasn't constant through all the sessions so I think it may have been just the circumstances of that particular rudder -- maybe warped. Just something to watch for.

Overall I love the way this machine sails! Refined manners, good speed, great fun! Next topic will be pedaling. 8)


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:17 pm 
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Whoa, impressive RR! How was it to launch? Did you use a boat ramp?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:22 pm 
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I launched both from the boat ramp and the shore. It's not that hard pulling up the ramp -- if I'm tired I can zig-zag! :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:49 pm 
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I've been looking forward to the Road Runner Road Test. Great report mate. Performance looks impressive.

Have you had a chance to assess storage for a day trip or overnighter. ( I see you nursing your trolley. Is there nowere to put it or do you just really love your trolley ? )

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:48 pm 
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Have you had a chance to assess storage for a day trip or overnighter. ( I see you nursing your trolley. Is there nowere to put it or do you just really love your trolley ? )
Ha. Now that you mention it, I am rather fond of my trolley and wanted to reward its many years of loyal service. It never gets to sit up front and see anything, so I gave it a treat. It usually rides behind the rear seat or up in the front cockpit (depending on whether tandem or solo). but not "knowing the ropes" yet on the TI, I didn't want to risk fouling the lines or accidentally flipping my beloved overboard. Of course it would fit in the front hatch, but apparently it gets claustrophobia. You probably also noticed in one of the sailing pics it got to ride with me up in the front cockpit. :wink:

I had to turn the boat back in to Hobie already so my agenda was really limited. When it hits the streets you guys will no doubt discover all kinds of TI tricks, mods and capabilities to share with us. I will say there is a lot of volume in that hull though, and you couldn't sink it with fewer than a half dozen refrigerators! :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:16 pm 
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Great report.
Can you furl the sail from the back seat?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:53 pm 
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Very interesting, thanks for taking the time, everybody already wants to own a TI to sail solo!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:50 pm 
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I can see couple troubles already... with an Adventure/AI the answer is I can't take you because I don't have room.
With the TI, Yes I have room but I don't want to take you.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:07 am 
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Many thanks again Roadrunner! 8)
I didn't think it possible but it looks like the TI grin might be wider than the AI grin! :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:34 am 
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Thanks, RR.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:16 am 
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Maybe I missed this answer earlier, if so, I apologize. While out on the water, are you able to switch controls from the one seat to the other without a major reworking of the lines? Can the front person control for a while, and then the back person? Or while sailing solo, can you try sailing up front, then move to the back to continue?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:25 am 
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augaug wrote:
While out on the water, are you able to switch controls from the one seat to the other without a major reworking of the lines? Can the front person control for a while, and then the back person? Or while sailing solo, can you try sailing up front, then move to the back to continue?
Absolutely! In the inactive cockpit, the mainsheet lies with the bitter end against its cam cleat (one in each cockpit) while the active cockpit uses the working end of the sheet to manage the sail. To transfer, the formerly active cockpit releases the sheet and the newly active cockpit starts sheeting in. Those clever engineers at Hobie are amazing!!

To make a triple purchase (for more leverage), one end (your choice) of the sheet is re-routed to the sail (special block) so the designated working end becomes permanently assigned to the designated cockpit. I didn't try it out, since the normal system worked great for me. Totally cool option though.

The rudder up/down lines work somewhat similarly. You have to remember to unlock the rudder in one cockpit before relocking it in the other -- learned that one the hard way! 8)


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:33 am 
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Another great review RR :) 8) :wink:
Sounds like the TI is going to offer some great solo sailing as a bonus for those who are prepared to put up with a companion and possible load assistant from time to time :D
Mine's going on a trailer for routine use, and launching from ramps and beach is not a problem here either.
I'm looking forward to reading about some epic journey in it. With a capable companion for moral support, I think this may be a frequent theme 8) :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:45 am 
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FLIPIT wrote:
I have the flashlite boat lights with the suction cups and run the green/red on the front hull and the white on the back hull. They really stick good. I go out at night often on my 16 and have a ball. It is very romantic and peaceful as the lake is smooth, quiet and almost no traffic. Just me and the wind. I am on a small lake in NC so I only encounter fast fishing boats and party cruisers but the lights work great and have had no close calls at all. I do get a lot of cheers from the passing boats as most folks have never seen a sailboat out at night at least not in this area. I guess I should put a small clip on light and run it up mast but I feel quite safe and what fun!! Also have considered a flashlite to clip somewhere to point up at the mailsail to light it up but have not needed this and probably never will on my peaceful lake.
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Copied this from another thread - I think this is yet another aspect that will become more frequent with the TI :D 8) :wink:
Is there a TI lighting accessory option available :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:31 pm 
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FLIPIT wrote:
I have the flashlite boat lights with the suction cups and run the green/red on the front hull and the white on the back hull. They really stick good. I go out at night often on my 16 and have a ball. It is very romantic and peaceful as the lake is smooth, quiet and almost no traffic. Just me and the wind. I am on a small lake in NC so I only encounter fast fishing boats and party cruisers but the lights work great and have had no close calls at all. I do get a lot of cheers from the passing boats as most folks have never seen a sailboat out at night at least not in this area. I guess I should put a small clip on light and run it up mast but I feel quite safe and what fun!! Also have considered a flashlite to clip somewhere to point up at the mailsail to light it up but have not needed this and probably never will on my peaceful lake.
Cheers,John
Speaking of flashlights and sails, that reminds me about sailing into Hiroshima Bay once at night in an 18' Lightning and a 17' Rebel (we were a fleet of 2 with no running lights) and only one flashlight between us to illuminate the sails. We were entered in a race the following day and had been sailing all day -- hit some headwinds along the way that ran us hours behind. The shipping and ferry traffic was horrendous -- many were fast moving passenger hydrofoils. I think that little flashlight saved our bacon! I don't remember much about the race, but will never forget that adventure! But that's another story. A flashlight (even if you have running lights) is a great back-up to have in your gear just in case....! 8)


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