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 Post subject: Car Top ??
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:35 am 
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Has anyone ever put a 16 on top of a car ??

I only want to put the hulls and beams on. I am going through the motions of epoxying them all together so they will be in a boat shaped configuration.

How much does that lot all weigh ? Two hulls side beams fore and aft beams ??

My trailer is in need of Hitch, wheel bearings, tag, lights and my car has no hitch. I need to get my boat 14 miles on flat road. I can do it at a non peak time at 30MPH. I only need to get it to the beach once.

Anyone done this, My car is a subaru legacy wagon.

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 Post subject: Re: Car Top ??
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:54 am 
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I have seen it done once several years ago while we were on vacation in San Diego. It was on Mission bay and the car was not even all that big really, maybe a bit bigger than a VW rabbit. I do not know how they supported it because I only saw it from a distance. It was kind of strange it looked like it was sailing around the parking lot (no the Mast was not set.)

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 Post subject: Re: Car Top ??
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:08 am 
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I think they weigh around 350 #'s, which is way more then the recommend 200#'s for my cars roof (VW Jetta TDI). Good luck and take pictures if you do it!


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 Post subject: Re: Car Top ??
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:49 am 
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Keven wrote:
I think they weigh around 350 #'s, which is way more then the recommend 200#'s for my cars roof (VW Jetta TDI). Good luck and take pictures if you do it!


The entire boat, including sails, mast, rudders, etc. probably weighs that much (mine only weighs 312 lbs).

The hulls and frame weigh only about 200#.

I've cartopped a 16 before (the whole thing), but it was disassembled and on a special rack that spread the load over the entire roof. It was also on a beast of a car - a '71 Olds Delta 88.


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 Post subject: Re: Car Top ??
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:25 pm 
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Too scared,

I had a quick look and found it was waay wider than the car roof, way wider than imagination had it. I am going to to car top the hulls down and assemble the boat once it's on the beach. The filler in the castings my get a bit sandy but it'll be ok.


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 Post subject: Re: Car Top ??
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:52 pm 
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Took me a while, but I finally found the photo I was looking for:

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And yeah, that's me - in 1977. I wish I still had that hair.


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 Post subject: Re: Car Top ??
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:15 pm 
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Thats cool Matt!
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I wish I still had that hair.
Really? look like one of those skater dudes harassing old ladies down at the park..
What kind of car is that?


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 Post subject: Re: Car Top ??
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:37 pm 
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I said I still wanted the hair, not the haircut.

Car is a '71 Olds Delta 88:
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It was my mom's car - Oxford Gray, without the fake convertible roof. I learned to drive with that car.

It also had the 455 Rocket V8 with a four barrel carb. You could hear it suck gas when you romped on the gas pedal. Of course, gas was only $0.50/gal then.


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 Post subject: Re: Car Top ??
PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:10 am 
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That's friggen hysterical!!! How old are you Matt?

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 Post subject: Re: Car Top ??
PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:33 am 
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I turned 50 a few months ago.

I could go from that configuration to sailing in 30 - 45 minutes, but that was really moving. I couldn't do it today because of the tramp tension I carry now, not to mention cars these days are a lot narrower.

My father refused to get a trailer for the boat. This was my solution. I went to at at least a dozen regattas that way in VA and NC when I was 17 / 18 years old. I bought my own trailer when I was 19 (when I got my first car) and that was the end of the cartopping.

That car was friggin' awesome. In addition to having way too much horsepower, you could use the bench seats as beds - either for camping or other teenage "activities". :wink:

That was 2 1/2 tons of Detroit iron that was completely used up before it had 100K miles on it. When I was a freshman in college, my parents traded it in for one of these:
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Not exactly the "date-mobile".


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 Post subject: Re: Car Top ??
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:25 am 
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Great stories matt,

I arranged the hulls on my roof in a similar fashion and it was pretty drama free getting her to the beach. I then put her together upside down and poured engine chock compound into the massive gaps between the castings and the pylons. I hope to hell the boat is square as it's never, ever coming apart again. That stuff went rock solid. Going to stick a little more in today where it settled after I went home and hopefully flip her over right way up.

Got a good lead on really cheap parts. My restoration project is becoming close to a floating boat!! Hopefully in a couple of weeks we'll be sailing


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 Post subject: Re: Car Top ??
PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 8:36 am 
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Ahhh What the heck.. I am a long time lurker and H14 owner.. and have been collecting H16 parts.. and last night a trailer and a set of hulls came home with me... I figure I might as well make my first post a fun one...

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And the best part is I was sitting at a stoplight and forgot they were up there.. and the turbo van STILL hung with a 97ish TransAm.. to the speedlimit... (my limit for show off racing) :lol: :lol: Hobies were meant for racing I say... :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Car Top ??
PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 4:56 pm 
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Brilliant, Ron! Simply brilliant. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Car Top ??
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:52 pm 
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i have seen it, altho not a hobie cat and i think it was only 14 feet or so, but it was on the autobahn in Germany, a family friend of ours had one many years ago until he failed to secure it properly and it lifted off and smashed all over the road.


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 Post subject: Re: Car Top ??
PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:40 pm 
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A friend of mine is contemplating bringing a Hobie 16 from California to Louisiana on top of a pickup truck w/ a camper top. Would anyone care to elaboarate on how to build a rack and how to get the boat up on top of the truck? Pictures would be awsome. I think this was a little more common back in the early days. We'd appreciate your help.

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