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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:47 pm 
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New to forum, I'm looking for innovative ideas for storing gear on my hobie 16 for weekend camping trips out to the barrier islands here in Florida. How & where do you secure your supplies.

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 Post subject: Storage on Hobie
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:46 pm 
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I installed hull ports to facilitate delam repair, so now I can stow in drybags inside hull. Learned recently that the hulls take on water through gelcoat, so maybe dry bags would not be guaranteed to keep totally dry. Whatever, you would want the load balanced fore and aft, side to side!

I was checking out pictures on one of the gallerys, and pictures showed net bags attached to the tramp, immediately behind the mast.

I have also heard of lashing some thing to the bottom of the tramp, which has to be a very wet ride, and you would not want anything there that should not get wet.

I have also visualized a mast bob, made out of a 3 gallon olive barrel. You would not have to worry about it getting near the water unless you go over. You also would not want anything real heavy in it, so maybe your sleeping bag, and dry change of clothes on a camp out. Have a second halyard to raise and lower it as needed, and you should have a high and dry spot. I don't know how it would affect sailing. I'm still learning so take what I say with a big grain of salt. TnT :lol: at myself! :D

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 Post subject: Storage on a Hobie16
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:36 pm 
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I live in Tampa and I've been in a similar situation. I store small items inside the hull but with a 5 inch diameter port you can't get anything large in the hull. I keep a soft cooler inside the hull, it holds about 6 drinks, you can also get a small cooler or dry bag and mount it infront of the dolphin striker. I welded an aluminum bracket and attached it to the front cross-member with large hose clamps. For dry goods the best idea I could come up with is to attach drybags or a backpack on the mast about 2.5 ft about the base. I just riveted a small metal loop on each side which I can tie a bag. It keeps a good balance, doesn't get caught on the jib plus it doesn't get to wet. A good practice is to just pack as little as needed. The Hobie 16 is fun to camp with once the Florida weather cools down.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:25 am 
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One quick note about the gel coat seepage. You won't notice any water from this over a short period of time. It takes weeks or even months for this to happen. It is more of a concern if you are planning on mooring your boat all season, not sailing or leaving it anchored for a few days.

I used to take canoe and kayak trips to the Boundary Waters in MN and Ontario. A good dry bag can handle lots of water. The key is to keep the end of the bag with the opening from being submerged.

The idea of using the hulls for storage is great... if you can fit the gear in them. I like to put the smaller heavy stuff in there. I put the big bulky stuff lashed to the dolphin striker and front crossbar "triangle".

The other option is to have someone bring your gear to you on a big, dry boat. :lol:

You will have a great time.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:18 pm 
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OK, so this idea may be silly, but how about putting your stuff in an inflatable raft and tie it to the rear crossbar and tow it behind you?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:02 pm 
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In New England this is a great way to keep your beverages cool. I have also pulled a wakeboarder this way. I think there is a thread in this forum about that.

But, if you are going to put your gear in a raft, it will be very wet and there is a chance you will loose the raft. Since the gear would get very wet anyway, you could just strap it to the underside of the tramp or on teh dolphin striker.

This is just my opinion.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:35 pm 
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I figure if I put the dry bag rolled up in the hatch, and then load it, I can manage getting it closed once inside the hull. You would not want a big drybag, but a number of small ones.

Nick you say, you will not notice the water soaking through the gelcoat, but I have read of hulls taking on a couple of gallons being normal. I realize that this is a far cry from flooding the hull, but it could get gear wet, and with the high humidity in the hull, even in a drybag, a camera or electronics, might not like the moisture.

As far as tying the raft under the tramp, is that inflated? TnT

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:09 am 
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I was not suggesting tying the raft under the tramp, I was suggesting tying the gear under the tramp and leaving the raft at home.

The water you see in the hulls from sailing does not come throught the gelcoat. My hulls are bone dry after a long day of sailing on my H18. The water in the hulls ingresses through various points like the breather tube on an H16, the drain plugs, the hatches, cracks in the deck to hull fitting, etc.

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 Post subject: Raft on bottom of tramp
PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:51 am 
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Hi nick, I should have posted a :D after my last question regarding strapping the raft to the bottom of the tramp. I just finished a book about sea going trimarans, and how when they go turtle, there is no easy way to right, so they keep survival gear available from the bottom, such as a covered survival raft. I am not sure that a H16 is in the same category as a sea going 60 footer? :D But then a little blue and yellow raft may be a good addition to an H16.

Anyway I do appreciate how helpful you guys have been in the group here, and especially putting up with a wise-acre like me! I have learned a lot, and expect to learn more, especially when I actually get on the water. So far I have tried to just read the threads about the actuall sailing issues, and keep my ears open, like the current thread about "heavy air." The H16 is such a high performance, overpowered craft, and the Cat configuration different from my other sailing experience (which is very limited at that), that I expect to get very wet, and I mean more than behind the ears! But I am trying to approach it as I have nothing to lose, and alot to gain. I have no sacred cows that I am not willing to sacrifice, other than my own body, so I am willing to get wet, and hopefully still be :D , TnT

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:30 am 
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We use our hobies primarily for overnight trips and when we do we usually put 18-20 people on about five boats and then we take an aditional chase boat to put the "group stuff" (cooking supplies, tents, water, etc.) on, the chase boat is also a big help with capsizes and broken boats (our newest hobie is an'84); we put our personal stuff (five or six large drybags) on the tramp lashed to the mast and tied down to the tramp, this makes it a little more difficult to get to the jib sheets but with four or five people and their gear on a 16 its really not about performance anyway. just my opinion.

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 Post subject: Any more suggestions?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:56 pm 
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Still looking for more ideas. Thanks for the help


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:51 pm 
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I like the idea of filling the raft and tying the raft under the tramp, that way everything stays dry an you could easily attach it from the oar holes of the raft to the tramp lacing. I think I would do that or tow the raft. That seems like the only practical way to take a tent, grill and cooler.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:35 am 
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Here's what we did on our trip to Anclote Key:

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This is all our gear for 2 nights, but my buddy and I are both backpackers, so we have a bunch of lightweight equipment.
All the dry bags are clipped together, or to the tramp lacing with carabiners. Ugly but functional.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:37 am 
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Just get a small inflatable and tow it behind the boat lol :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:07 am 
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This was posted awhile ago and maybe with some dry bags the answer to your question.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hobie-16-touring-ne ... 3a536bb147


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