righting

Hi,can someone draw me a sketch on how to put the righting lines on my 16? Thanks, Roger

I am not sure how everyone else is rigging them but the two ways i have rigged my righting lines depend on what kind of line you have. my favorite way is to tie a peice of line to the forward stanchion, run it around the aft stanchion, then back up and through a pulley tied to the dolphin striker with a loop of bungee cord about 3 feet long, then back to the opposite aft stanchion and up to the adjacent forward stanchion and tie it back off. the other way is similar, but uses a line with the bungee built into it, this is more comfortable on your hands, but it does not feel as substansial to me, but with that you do basically the same thing, but go around the dolphin striker with the main rope instead of using a pulley and bungee cord. Hope this helps

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The Murray's catalog (available online) shows a few different systems / methods.

Also search the forum and you'll find plenty of other posts on the subject.

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Warm regards,

Jim

I use the minimalist approach:

I tie one end of a 14' piece of line (a section of old mainsheet) to the dolphin striker. The rest gets stuffed into the tramp pocket (or you can put it in one of the little clip on bags if your tramp doesn't have a pocket).

After the flip, you pull it out, throw it over the upper hull, right the boat, stuff it back in. No worries!

After looking at the different ways of routing the line, I think I'll suscribe to this minimalist approach. My first time out with my boat, I turtled. At that point I tied my line to the chainplate mount (probably not good, more for expediency); I was able to bring the mast to the surface at that point. I might consider attaching a righting bag to the loose end since I usually have to sail without a crew. (Hard to find someone as nuts as me).

Good info in this forum,
Eric

Save up and get a Hobie Bob. Works great.
Or, be a practical person and tie an old Javex bottle, or windshield fluid bottle, to the halyard hook. Looks like #&*##@ but it works.
Get heavier crew.

Enjoy

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how do u recover from a turtle single -handed btw? i dont know how u can use the bag to ur advantage there? Usually with two ppl u just stand on the lip, in front of the rudder, on the leeward hull...bt what abt single handed?

I've always been able to stand on a stern and get the bows to point stgraight up. Then, the boat falls on it's side and it's just another capsize. Granted, I weighed about 240 lbs at that time.

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Nick

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'74 Pearson 30
'84 H16
'82 H18 Magnum
St. Louis, MO

how much total weight does it take to right the h16?

It depends a lot on technique and wind strength.

The more wind there is, the less weight it takes. I've been able to singlehandedly (at 185 lbs) right a 16 when it's blowing hard, and it takes every bit of class minimum (285#) to right it in light air.

Technique includes getting the mast pointed into the wind, height of the people trying to right the boat (more correctly, how high the righting line is being pulled - higher (shoulder height) is better).

OK - here's my dumb contribution to the discussion


In two seasons of sailing a 16 I haven't had to right it yet. (the fiancee, now wife) panics if I start to fly a hull. I've read all about righting, but the one question that keeps nagging me is:

How do I reach the righting line when I'm standing on the lower pontoon? The boat has an 8' beam, and I'm 5'6"!

You should practice in shallow water before learning to shoot the gun in a fox hole. Capsize the boat near the beach in light/no winds and give it a try. Just grab the righting line and lean back, don't worry about getting the line over the higher hull.

Plus, being able to right the boat will give you lots of confidence and your skill level will improve as a result. Until I righted my H16 for the first time I would never try anything that might capsize it. Once I learned thta I could right her without too much trouble then I really pushed myself and became a better sailor.

Capsizing then righting has also helped past girlfriends calm down about flying a hull. If your crew knows that capsizing is not a big issue then they will be more willing to fly a hull.

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Nick

Current Boat
In the market
Previous boats owned
'74 Pearson 30
'84 H16
'82 H18 Magnum
St. Louis, MO

With my line tied to the windward chainplate I leaned away. After a very short delay, the mast rotated to the horizontal. Unfortunately, I had only my body weight (168 lb.) as the counter-weight which was not enough to right the cat. A book I read says I need a minimum of 200 lbs. to right a 16. Hence the need for a righting bag over my shoulder. The one I built holds about 2-1/2 gallons of water or about (or about 155 lbs.) this will easily put me over the 200 lb. minimum. Testing on this method will be done once the winter's over and warmer weather arrives.
Cheers,
Eric

1 gallon of fresh water ~ 8.34 lbs

2 1/2 gallons = 20.85 lbs

155lbs!?

(1 gal salt water = 8.56 lbs)