Help with rigging forestay

Hello!
I need advise about rigging my Hobie 16. It is from -86 and my question is about the forestay rigging.

This double chainplate is situated at the bottom of the forestay (picture is on our blog)



I wonder if anyone has a picture or an assembly-manual that shows the correct way of connecting it. Last summer, wich was the second I found one way of rigging it that workes, but i want to be sure that i am using the equipment the best way.

And please what is the english term (i am swedish) for this rigging-solution, since it is not in the manuals for the original Hobie 16.

Thankful for assistance, will go rigging this weekend.

Jesper

I edited your image link... has to be the image on a page... not the page its on.

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Matt Miller
Former - Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Warranty and Technical Support
Hobie Cat USA
(Retired 11/7/2022)

It's pretty easy, the two bridles coming off the bows go to a shackle. The bottom hole of the chainplate gets the pin from the bridles shackle. Then the forestay goes into the top hole of the chainplate. That's it! The jib hooks into whatever hole in the chainplate you would like, depending on how much mast rake you run and how your boat is setup. The second chainplate is usually redundant, for boats that run tons of mast rake and can't attach the forestay without the second chainplate. They usually run a small bungee too to keep tension on the forestay after the rig is tensioned, so it doesn't flop around the jib and chaff it.

Good luck!

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Blair T

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Thank you both, very much!

Then I have had it a bit wrong. The guy I bought the Hobie from had the two adjusters like a tool to get more tension in the forestay when the jib is up. Look at this picture



The bridle schackel was attached to one of the adjusters, the jib to the bottom of the other. When the jib was raised and put under tension, the forestay then got more tense.

Was that a bad idea or was it acceptable?

jesper

The "forestay" on a 16 only holds up the mast when rigging. Once the jib is up, the jib wire takes the full load. You don't want the "forestay" to have any load at all. That would take tension off the wire in the jib luff and allow it to bow to leeward which is bad for upwind performance. The jib luff wire should be tight and the "forestay" loose to the point of drooping several inches. Sometimes guys add a bungee to tension the forestay to keep it from flopping around.

The second adjuster is typically for extending the forestay to get more rake aft... without tension on the forestay.

For many years the forestay has been too short to rig at max rake. That was corrected when we went to the Aussie sysetm several years ago.

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Matt Miller
Former - Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Warranty and Technical Support
Hobie Cat USA
(Retired 11/7/2022)

That settles my quriosity, and I can tomorrow morning rig the hobie correctly - thank you very much!

Regards

jesper

Jesper, This is off-topic, but I notice Lindau in your screen name. Are your from Lindau on Bodensee? I was in Lindau a few years ago. What a beautiful place!

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Hobie Mirage Classic

hello

No - i dwell in the archipelagos of stockholm and gothemburg in sweden - but it sure is a great place the bodensee!

jesper

I think sailing on bodensee would be wonderful. I was unable to see a lot of the area although Lindau was a very beautiful little city. My mother lives in Ravensburg, Germany and my sister lives in Biberach an der Riss, Germany. They drove my family and me to Bregenz and into Switzerland for a short shopping and sightseeing excursion. I would love to return and spend much more time in the area......and even sail the lake.

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Hobie Alter Signature Model
Sail #11

Hobie Mirage Classic

This was a helpful question for me too. My H16 that I just picked up has a double plate also, end to end. I guess the previous owner liked alot of rake. It creates some slack in the shrouds which are all the way to the bottom hole on the adjusters even if I attach the forestay as far down on the "extra" plate as I can, almost to the bottom hole. The pic shows the 5th or 6th hole setting but I had it almost to the bottom hole of the top plate and still had some slack in the shrouds. How tight should the shrouds be with the sails up? I'm pretty sure the jib shroud was as tight as I could get it, some slack in the forestay.


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Forestay by pokitetrash, on Flickr[/url]

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Shroud adjuster by pokitetrash, on Flickr[/url]

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'81 H16 yellow hulls

I replaced the side shrouds on my H16, and the new ones were a bit shorter...necessitating lengthing the forestay (yes, also increases the rake). I didn't use the same method as shown in your photo, but this may be the reason for the adjustment you're seeing.