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 Post subject: lighter hobie 16s
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:26 pm 
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Anyone know what year hobiecat started to produce the lighter hobie 16s? How much was the weight difference, versus the 70's boats.?
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 Post subject: Re: lighter hobie 16s
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:53 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: lighter hobie 16s
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:15 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: lighter hobie 16s
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:25 pm 
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Was it only the 84's that were lighter or did it continue from that point forward all the way to the modern 16's?


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 Post subject: Re: lighter hobie 16s
PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:34 am 
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The years of light boats were '84 to about '88 The closer you get to '88, the more chance you have that the boat is heavier.

After '90, the boats were more consistently 320#, however, boats gain weight as the age.

The newest boats are lightest. Most of the late 2000s boats are underweight (310 - 319#).


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 Post subject: Re: lighter hobie 16s
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:50 am 
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A little off topic but in the same vein...I'm looking around for a H14T to play with. Were the 14's lightened around '84 too? What exactly changed in the manufacturing process at that time?


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 Post subject: Re: lighter hobie 16s
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:39 am 
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sunvista wrote:
A little off topic but in the same vein...I'm looking around for a H14T to play with. Were the 14's lightened around '84 too? What exactly changed in the manufacturing process at that time?

The 14s were lightened in '84 too. I have an '85 that's only 2# over minimum weight (240#).

The layup process was changed (vacuum bagging) that allowed for a tighter laminate with less resin. It was a win-win for both Hobie and the sailors - the boats were lighter (better performance) and used less resin (less $).


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 Post subject: Re: lighter hobie 16s
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:46 pm 
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Thanks, Matt B., I knew you would have a great answer. Now, I am also assuming, that the improved layup method and vacuum bag method, also produced the tighter fiberglass sandwich, which is why many older hobie 16s , before 1984, had many more problems with delamination. I have had to fix the delamination on one hull on a '78 hobie 16, and both hulls on a '79 hobie 14. So, besides being lighter and less costly in materials, the newer hobies are also stronger.


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 Post subject: Re: lighter hobie 16s
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:55 pm 
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spyder wrote:
Thanks, Matt B., I knew you would have a great answer. Now, I am also assuming, that the improved layup method and vacuum bag method, also produced the tighter fiberglass sandwich, which is why many older hobie 16s , before 1984, had many more problems with delamination. I have had to fix the delamination on one hull on a '78 hobie 16, and both hulls on a '79 hobie 14. So, besides being lighter and less costly in materials, the newer hobies are also stronger.

There are a lot of things that influence delamination. Sun/heat exposure, repeated flexing (using the deck as a step), freeze-thaw cycles can break down even the best built boats. I don't think the boats made after 1984 are any less prone to delam. There are a lot fewer out there than the 78 to 83 model years (peak production) and they tend to be better taken care of.


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