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 Post subject: Sail numbering.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:59 am 
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Hi all
Can anyone please explain how sail numbering on catamarans work? Is it similar to dinghys in that the number stays with the hull despite how many suits of sails you have? Someone told me you get a new number for your Hobie 16 every time you get new sails, is this true?
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 Post subject: Re: Sail numbering.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:25 am 
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Someone told me you get a new number for your Hobie 16 every time you get new sails, is this true?


Yes, True. Sail numbers are assigned during sail production, not related to the boat at all. You can order custom numbers with a sail for a fee.

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 Post subject: Re: Sail numbering.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:09 pm 
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That's cool - even if you want no numbers at all?


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 Post subject: Re: Sail numbering.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:30 pm 
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Yes... you can order without sail numbers, but same up-price due to handling.

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 Post subject: Re: Sail numbering.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:36 am 
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Thanks Matt
So how can you tell what vintage the hulls are when looking for a second hand boat. The reason I ask is I had a Hobie 16' about 7 years ago & did nationals & other regattas with her but didn't do well, would've done alot better if the boat was newer. She had a 75@@@ number, & I believe those were the original sails. Been sailing dinghy's, keel boats, windsurfing all my life & decided that it's back to the 16' for me (& my wife enjoys crewing for me on the 16 too). So I'm looking for a second hand 16' again (new ones here in South Africa are way too expensive for the average person), older hulls are not just heavier from advancement in technology but heavier from progressive water logging too. So the trick is to get the newest hulls at the best price.
I heard that hulls were manufactured here in SA at some point & then went to France & have been told that French hulls are much better than the SA hulls, does anyone have any more facts on that?


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 Post subject: Re: Sail numbering.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:10 am 
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A 75XXX sail number would be from 1983 or 1984.


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 Post subject: Re: Sail numbering.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:31 am 
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I heard that hulls were manufactured here in SA at some point & then went to France & have been told that French hulls are much better than the SA hulls, does anyone have any more facts on that?


May be more of a vintage thing. The class rules changed in 83-84 to allow for lighter boats. Was 340 and went to 320 lbs.

I don't have any info on SA vs EU construction.

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 Post subject: Re: Sail numbering.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:36 pm 
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Would anyone know how old my sails are roughly.
sail number #90031.


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 Post subject: Re: Sail numbering.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:59 pm 
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I always wondered about sail numbers and their relevance to to boat year. From what I can tell, my boat is a 1986 (yellow hulls and tramp) and sail #89013.


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 Post subject: Re: Sail numbering.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:04 pm 
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Tusker wrote:
Would anyone know how old my sails are roughly.
sail number #90031.

1986.

The sails for the 1986 Nationals (in September of that year) were sequentially numbered starting at 90101, so your number would have been made a bit earlier in the year.

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I always wondered about sail numbers and their relevance to to boat year. From what I can tell, my boat is a 1986 (yellow hulls and tramp) and sail #89013.

Also 1986

That's probably from the beginning of 1986.

The production rate was tapering off quickly after 1985. In 1987, the Nationals sails started with 91001 - only 1000 more than the year prior.


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 Post subject: Re: Sail numbering.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:11 pm 
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Matt---I bought my boat from a guy in Toledo in 2000. You've probably seen in the area back then, as the previous owner was pretty active in racing.


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 Post subject: Re: Sail numbering.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:19 pm 
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You may want to check out this article:

"The Ultimate Sail Pattern Guide" on pages 18-22 of the Mar /Apr 2006 issue of HOTLINE.

http://2010.archive.hobiecat.com/hobiec ... 4_2006.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: Sail numbering.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:23 pm 
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My sails don't seem to match any one year exactly. They are close to the 84 Nationals yellow, but my color stripes are lower on the sail. I'll see if I can get a pic of my boat to show up here.

a href="http://s904.photobucket.com/albums/ac248/AlanRV8/?action=view&amp;current=scan.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac248/AlanRV8/scan.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Try that, see if it works. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Sail numbering.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:32 pm 
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http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac24 ... 8/scan.jpg

Try that.


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 Post subject: Re: Sail numbering.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:43 pm 
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That's great to know.. Cheers. They are in amazing condition for there age then.. Would u be able to help me with boat serial numbers aswell? Lol I was looking at them the other day and noticed something interesting. One hull has serial #bb2593 and the other #2285.. Would that mean I have two different aged hulls? Could you help me find out how old each one is if that's the case? Thanks so much :)


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