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 Post subject: New Hobie 16 owner
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:34 pm 
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Hi everyone,
i am the proud owner of a Hobie 16 and would appricate if anyone can provide me with the following details:
1. Were is the VIN number located on the hulls, i have only seen dymolabel with some numbers on it attached to the outside of the hull near the stern.
2. Are there any issues i need to be aware of especially if it is an older boat?

Thanks

Mark


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 Post subject: Re: New Hobie 16 owner
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:38 am 
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Markie Mark (?) :shock: :lol:

Welcome to the madness. The S/N is located on the transoms. Unless there's been a major repair you should see it etched into the fiberglass and readable. Find that and I'll post the key that unlocks the number's significance.

Here is something I posted the other day to a poster about to buy a used boat. Couldn't hurt. Start here first.

"The biggest single thing is hull integrity. You need to look out for soft hulls, especially on the topsides directly in front of the front pylons. Put a palm down and press in looking for any deflection. Don't be afraid to lean in on it. Do the same everywhere else as you look for any signs of delamination. Inspect the holes the four pylons exit the topsides for any cracking or gaps.

Stand a few feet away from the boat fore and aft and spy all the way down the hulls both inboard and outboard. Look for any rippling, denting, or signs of repair. Repairs aren't necessarily a bad thing on an older boat if they're done well, just find them and know what you're getting. Carefully inspect the bottom edges for excessive wear from beach dragging. Press hard with fingers as you look for softness.

Standing and running rigging should be completely replaced anyway post-purchase as a safety precaution as you don't know how she was sailed, but its condition can be a sign of how she was sailed and what kind of shape she's in. Look carefully for hard wearing, frays, any splits and cracks. Even though it needs to be replaced ideally it will be in decent shape.

Inspect the tramp frame, mast and rudder assemblies carefully for splitting, cracks, repairs, etc. Check each rivet closely for a firm grip or any signs of being replaced. A good test is to lift each bow separately and see how the boat reacts. If it moves independently and comes up a lot b/f the other side then you have a weak frame. Do the same at each stern. A weak frame is reparable, just know what you're getting.

Another good test is to check for a square tramp frame by pulling a tape from front corner casting to rear corner casting. I found mine to be 3+" out of square once.

Treat it like inspecting a used car and look for obvious things. It's not a terribly complicated boat and once you slow down and take your time you will begin to see the right things.

Depending on its age and your initial budget you're probably buying an opportunity to bring something awesome back to life. If it has good bones you should be fine.

Another idea is to contact the local fleet. Who knows, with the right approach and a little friendly persuasion (free beer) you may find someone willing to look over a prospective boat with you. If anyone ever asked me I'd make a sincere effort to help.

Good luck, come back here often and ask questions and research specific issues. There is a TON of information here and awesome posters much more knowledgeable than myself who will get you going in the right direction. Without it I'd be dead in the water."



As noted be ready to replace all the standing and running rigging at a minimum. You may need to rake the rudders if you find you have too much weather helm. Weather help causes the helm to pull against you hard while underway. With mine it tired me out in less than an hour. I did this mod to the letter and it worked out perfect. Don't worry, TONS of material is here on that mod.

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 Post subject: Re: New Hobie 16 owner
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:37 am 
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Hi Mark, and WELCOME TO THE Hobie Hobby !!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: New Hobie 16 owner
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:48 pm 
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Thanks guys for the info, i should start by letting you know that i have been sailing for about 25 years on and off starting from a Sabot, to 45' keel boats.
I did check the hulls and they were sound especially under the trailer rollers (usually the first place due to bouncing in transport), no sign of any repair work, delamination or gelcoat (osmossis) issues. Rigging and tramp was is good condition, i will take on the advice however on replacing the shrouds / and any areas which come under stress. Sheets, halyards are another area ill look at as well. I also will look at the hull width both for and aft and any distortion when lifting each hull.
The boat was an ex state champion and has been irregularly sailed due to lack of keeping a full time crew (don't we all know that one!). The price is right and for a boat to learn to sail on looks pretty good. Sails look old but then again im not racing it yet, so they can wait.
Will look for the VIN number when i pick it up this weekend and will advise what i find.
Thanks for the advice and will keep in touch.
Think the next big job will be refurbishing the trailer (Yeehah)


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 Post subject: Re: New Hobie 16 owner
PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:59 am 
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Guys,
have found the VIN number on my boat, it is 2509 and the sail no. is 97624.
Any idea how old it is? date of manufacture, etc.

Regards

Mark


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 Post subject: Re: New Hobie 16 owner
PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:47 am 
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Heya Mark, nice to have you on board!

The "number on the transom" thing only really started taking on a relevance to build date etc., in more recent years.

For instance, my boat is a '97 and the mumber on the rear is BB8802 (or something like that), which doesn't mean jack when trying to decipher anything from it.

My understanding is that unless it's been built within the last 10 or so years, you'll have to try and get an idea of build going from fittings, colours of castings, sail colours etc. Unless you're gonna race, it's not really going to matter, and even then, you'd probably need something pretty recent to be competitive.

I know it would be nice to know for certain, but I gave up caring once I started sailing the @$$ off it and having a blast. There are guys on here with boats that are some 20-30 years old who still sail them like they stole them.

Keep it tight and in good repair and you won't care either. :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: New Hobie 16 owner
PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:15 am 
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For what it's worth I copied this from the forum at some point:

Hulls - What year / model year is my Hobie?

CCML1944A888 ( CCM L 1944 A 8 88 )
CCM - Coast Catamaran Manufacturer
L - The letter in that position "L" stands for the model of boat/kayak. Each boat model (H16, H17, H18 etc.) starts out with a different letter. If more than 9,999 of that model were built in one year, there would be multiple letters for a single model. In example, there were so many Hobie 16's built in some years that the model letters include CCMB, D, E, F, L, O, P R and S (also do to several other factors). The letter must change if we build more than 9,999 in one year.
1944 - Serial number sequence number
A - "A" is the month for January, "B" February and so on.
8 - year which was built in 1988
88- Your boat is a 1988 model year. Model years are like cars. The new year starts in September.
If the last of the sequence read I889, The boat would have been built in September of 1988 as a 1989 Model Year boat.

Mine had a similar number and I was able to find out some more about it and it's production run.

+1 to HiFiRobbie - Its doesn't really matter, just sail her and have fun right?

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 Post subject: Re: New Hobie 16 owner
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:25 am 
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Hi all,
well i have been busy tracking down the history of my boat and it seems to be between 10 - 12 years old according to the president of the WA hobie association so ill take that for true.
I have taken the boat off my trailer, stripped, wire brushed and washed all the salt / sand off the frame. Coated with a zinc primer and topcoated a nice blue with kill rust paint. Have just completed rewiring / installing new lights and in the process of reinstalling the sail locker and lining the inside with marine carpet. It will come up looking pretty slick!!. Last job to do is polish the hulls and get it in the water, put the mast up and go for a sail. Luckly i have a set of sand rollers to get it in and out of the water.
I have been reading the tips for tuning on this forum so will try a few things and see how it pans out.


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 Post subject: Re: New Hobie 16 owner
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:09 am 
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Markie Mark wrote:
I have taken the boat off my trailer, stripped, wire brushed and washed all the salt / sand off the frame. Coated with a zinc primer and topcoated a nice blue with kill rust paint.


:o

Markie Mark wrote:
Have just completed rewiring / installing new lights and in the process of reinstalling the sail locker and lining the inside with marine carpet.


It wasn't until I read that last sentence that I realised you were talking about the TRAILER!!!

Man, my heart was in my mouth for a second thiere, with thoughts of a kill-rust blue-framed Hobie kickin' round.

Bet you can't wait to get her in the water. Good times ahead!!!

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