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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:00 am 
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Since GoPros have become pretty much standard sailing equipment it seems like we should have a thread dedicated to our videos, as well as tips for filming on board/ embedding videos (I can't figure it out for the life of me).

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:02 am 
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I have used the chest mount as well as the suction cup mount with varying degrees of success. Most recently I just tied a line to the camera, hooked it to my harness and used it selfie-style. I haven't edited much and a lot of it is junk due to a pesky water droplet, but I'll include a clip from a short trip Sunday for the ef of it.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:54 pm 
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Dropped a few below. To embed a video check out this post:
http://www.virtualassistantforums.com/b ... -post.html

If you're looking at your video on youtube you can also get the necessary info referenced above by clicking the "Share" button, and the info after the "v=" will be right after the "http://youtu.be/" portion. Super quick and easy.

Enjoy!









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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:55 am 
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outoftheoffice wrote:
Dropped a few below. To embed a video check out this post:
http://www.virtualassistantforums.com/b ... -post.html

If you're looking at your video on youtube you can also get the necessary info referenced above by clicking the "Share" button, and the info after the "v=" will be right after the "http://youtu.be/" portion. Super quick and easy.

Enjoy!




Thanks man; awesome videos. Did you ditch the wings? I'm considering taking mine off next time there is a good breeze just to see how it sails.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:26 am 
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jds0912 wrote:
Thanks man; awesome videos. Did you ditch the wings? I'm considering taking mine off next time there is a good breeze just to see how it sails.

Thanks! Yea, I pulled the wings off recently and mostly sail w/o them. I feel a little more 'stable' trapping w/o the wings and can fly the hull a little higher when the leeward wing isn't dragging around in the water. Taking them off and on is so easy I figure why not, and when they're off I just cover the little metal tabs left at the ends of the crossbars with some plastic tubing to (try) and prevent any foot injury. For sure check it out, I think you'll agree the boat sails a bit differently..


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:43 pm 
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I've just finished my two Hobie 18 videos for 2014:

Heartbeat:



Apart:



And below are my somewhat less polished, pre-GoPro videos from 2012 & 2013:

2013:


2012:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:32 am 
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While not nearly as polished as Sabres' excellent videos, here's mine from a windy day at the very end of last season.

I've normally had the Go-Pro mounted to my bowsprit just inside the jib furler, but want to play around with some other locations in the future


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:02 pm 
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Thanks SNovak!

I must say, it's pretty cool to see just how wild an 18SX can get with a spin out! From what I could tell, you were living right on the edge the whole time, I'm surprised it didn't dig in sooner!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:15 am 
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SabresfortheCup wrote:
Thanks SNovak!

I must say, it's pretty cool to see just how wild an 18SX can get with a spin out! From what I could tell, you were living right on the edge the whole time, I'm surprised it didn't dig in sooner!


Yes, the spinnaker adds another whole element to the 18SX- mine is actually a furling "screacher" from Calvert Sails- flatter cut than a true spinnaker, and much larger than the F18/Tiger style spinnaker (comes several feet after of the shrouds and sheets from the rear crossbar). It's probably not as efficient for windward/leeward racing as the F18 style, but I can carry it with the wind much farther forward (in light wind), and its an absolute blast.

I actually felt like the spinnaker added some lift to the bows. Even when we managed to drive the entire leeward hull under water, it didn't feel like it wanted to pitchpole that badly. without the kite (we blew up the furling line and had to drop the sail on shore), it wanted to dig in much harder...

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:08 am 
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The mighty SX18 truly flies under spin..... what a great video, and I love your mainsail...

We have different techniques....
My 20 year old son Martin kneels (with his windward knee) on the tramp, facing forward, with his leeward knee extended at about 45 degrees to the side, and leeward foot is tucked under a hiking strap. This way, he can play the spin sheet and keep a better eye on the shape of the luff of the spin. When things get 'hot', he moves more outboard, and more to the stern, but still on the tramp. (Even if I bought a longer spin sheet, we're not good enough yet to run the spin from the wings or the wire.... most folks around here run the spin from the tramp).

I steer the 18SX to the mark, going hotter to pick up speed, then bearing away to use that speed to go fast. I scallop as gently as I can to maintain maximum speed, using the luff of the spin as my indicator, as advised by the crew. I never play the mainsheet, it stays 'locked'.

When puffs begin to overpower us, #1 - Martin will release a bit of spin sheet, #2 - Release of more spin sheet, #3 - I bear away, and if the puff is really strong, #4 - I turn downwind fully and sheet in the traveler.... (less area for the wind to affect the mainsail), but I NEVER release the mainsheet. A tight mainsheet is needed as a backstay... ever seen the top of the mast in those conditions when you release the mainsheet? Even my buddies who sail Tornado's use this method, and they have straight sticks.

Tiger and Wildcat sailors, how do you run with a spin?

A couple of times, we have almost pitched, the hulls going to about 50 degrees, and the boat came to a sudden stop. H18 has huge hull volumes forward, which is a very good thing. (That's when we were glad we have a plan to stay "secured" on the tramp...using foot straps etc) Then, with a quick release of the spin and traveler sheets, the boat came back flat, and we zoomed off. The only time we capsized was when we were trying to use the spin to beat upwind..... however, that is another story.

One of these days, I'll have the courage to go out on the wire when under spin..... need more practice.

Frostbite Series starts tomorrow, although at 25C and sunny, we won't even wear wetsuits....

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:07 pm 
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John Lunn wrote:
The mighty SX18 truly flies under spin..... what a great video, and I love your mainsail...

Thanks- the Main is a Whirlwind, which I've been very happy with. The previous owner bought it just before he sold the boat, so it should last a while longer, but when it does need replacing, I'll probably get one of Chip's squaretops.

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We have different techniques....
My 20 year old son Martin kneels (with his windward knee) on the tramp, facing forward, with his leeward knee extended at about 45 degrees to the side, and leeward foot is tucked under a hiking strap. This way, he can play the spin sheet and keep a better eye on the shape of the luff of the spin. When things get 'hot', he moves more outboard, and more to the stern, but still on the tramp. (Even if I bought a longer spin sheet, we're not good enough yet to run the spin from the wings or the wire.... most folks around here run the spin from the tramp).

Does your kite sheet from the front crossbar? like I mentioned, mine sheets from the rear bar, so sitting on the tramp means the sheet is behind you at an awkward angle- that may account for the difference. I find that up on the wings gives us the best view of the luff. We were too far forward in that video, but these days in really heavy air running, I'm all the way at the back edge of the wing, with a leg braced against the wing leg, with the crew just in front of me , often straddling the wing leg. this gives us tons of righting moment, and helps keep that leeward bow nice and high.

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I steer the 18SX to the mark, going hotter to pick up speed, then bearing away to use that speed to go fast. I scallop as gently as I can to maintain maximum speed, using the luff of the spin as my indicator, as advised by the crew. I never play the mainsheet, it stays 'locked'.

When puffs begin to overpower us, #1 - Martin will release a bit of spin sheet, #2 - Release of more spin sheet, #3 - I bear away, and if the puff is really strong, #4 - I turn downwind fully and sheet in the traveler.... (less area for the wind to affect the mainsail), but I NEVER release the mainsheet. A tight mainsheet is needed as a backstay... ever seen the top of the mast in those conditions when you release the mainsheet? Even my buddies who sail Tornado's use this method, and they have straight sticks.


It was a very puffy day (steady 12-14, gusts to 25+), so it was very hard to find and stay in a groove with that windward hull just skimming the water. We were also just out playing around, not racing, so could chase the wind where-ever we wanted

I was definitely playing the main way too much in those conditions, and was lucky not to damage the mast. My original thinking had been to only blow the main after the kite was blown (if I still needed it), but I wasn't being as good about that as I should have been. blowing the main also just opened the top of the sail up so it caught the wind and pushed us over more. A habit from my monohull days I've been working to get rid of.

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Tiger and Wildcat sailors, how do you run with a spin?

A couple of times, we have almost pitched, the hulls going to about 50 degrees, and the boat came to a sudden stop. H18 has huge hull volumes forward, which is a very good thing. (That's when we were glad we have a plan to stay "secured" on the tramp...using foot straps etc) Then, with a quick release of the spin and traveler sheets, the boat came back flat, and we zoomed off. The only time we capsized was when we were trying to use the spin to beat upwind..... however, that is another story.

The buoyancy really is incredible in those bows. I think we could have recovered from our pitchpole if the skipper at the time (a friend and fellow H18 owner) hadn't lost his grip and slid forward into me...

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One of these days, I'll have the courage to go out on the wire when under spin..... need more practice.

Yes, its absolutely wild flying the kite from the trap- I've done it a few times when soloing, and its an adrenaline rush

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Frostbite Series starts tomorrow, although at 25C and sunny, we won't even wear wetsuits....

Lucky you- I moved over the summer, and so my boat has gotten very little use. I'm hoping to get one more good weekend, but then that's it...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:48 pm 
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Good explanations, thank you. We all need more time on the water.

I can see that your spin is much bigger than my Tiger based spin.
Our spin blocks are mounted on the shroud adjusters, with a turning block on the front cross bar, 1" inboard of the inside lip of the hulls. So yes, each of us will sheet from the point at which it works best.

While I have a square top, it has been devilishly difficult to get the sail to work well, and next time, I'll buy a regular pin top, as the H18 mast was never designed for a square top.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:14 am 
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Damn these are some good videos. Make me wish I had more wind, lighter crew and tighter sails! Still a couple more weekends left until I yank my boat. Pray for wind.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:27 am 
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Finally got around to putting something together from Wayward Winds 2012. Not much racing was actually had as the winds didn't cooperate when they needed to. But still had a bunch of fun! Hope to have video from the recent Redfish Reach up sometime soon. Enjoy!



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:46 pm 
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Sailed the hobie from the beach I keep it in the summer to my buddies house for dry storage for the rest of the season. It was hooting (20-28 kts) while we were out there which made for some pretty intense sailing. We ripped the jib in half about 20 minutes into our first tack which made the rest of our sail, 4 miles directly upwind a bit of a challenge. Eventually we figured out the proper weight distribution to successfully tack the boat, but not until we capsized trying to roll tack. Enjoy in 720P, probably turn down your speakers too.


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