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 Post subject: Re: IT'S HERE!!!!!
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:01 am 
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Cradles are molded. Carpet is being cut and glued next week. Should be able to fill all back orders late next week or so.

Lots of engineering projects this year have slowed accessory work a bit and they had to have final production boats assembled before getting the cradle molds designed, tested, gang molds made... then labor and materials.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:06 pm 
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Thanks for the update Matt.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:13 pm 
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What will that mean to us down here 6, 8,10 week wait? If you ask me Somebody in the cradle department needs a kick up the backside! A kayak without cradles...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:40 pm 
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You would have to stay in touch with your dealer down there.

In the meantime... foam?

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 Post subject: Re: IT'S HERE!!!!!
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:35 pm 
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mmiller wrote:
You would have to stay in touch with your dealer down there.

In the meantime... foam?


Here is my temporary solution.
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 Post subject: Re: IT'S HERE!!!!!
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:17 pm 
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I'm not spending 2k on a brand new trailer to bodge it up with foam, surely its not too much to ask for the complete package.

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 Post subject: Re: IT'S HERE!!!!!
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:27 am 
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Roller wrote:
What will that mean to us down here 6, 8,10 week wait? If you ask me Somebody in the cradle department needs a kick up the backside! A kayak without cradles…


Hogman wrote:
I'm not spending 2k on a brand new trailer to bodge it up with foam, surely its not too much to ask for the complete package. I've just about had a gut full of this entire exercise. I thought waiting 7 months back in 2008 for my first AI was bad enough..


Gentlemen, I can give you a rough template of the "TEMPORARY CRADLES" if that will stop your angst. They are NOT perfect. The cradles are fashioned from pine 1"x3" and will NOT last over 2 months, which, will cover your needs until the proper cradles arrive. I would unload the yak from the trailer for long range storage lest the cradles warp the hull.

NOW, smashing Matt is not the answer and is pissing me right off. He has put up with more SH&T than is necessary and don't think it is warranted any more from whinging Aussies or others.

There is a lot said about using your own initiative, creativity, and drive, something Aussies are supposed to be proud of.

If you wish, I will send you a "rough" template to get you through.

I'll even pay for the postage.

PM me for your answer, and I will get it out as soon as I finish the rear cradles.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:55 am 
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xdcammer--Hogman did not write that. I believe it was Roller. Roller is free to write what he wants. I feel the same frustration. Some people car-top their boats (I strongly recommend against that), and they can't care less about cradles. Others have their own custom trailer, and couldn't care less about cradles.

The rest of us will have to wait for proper cradles and, probably, fashion some temp solution.

Keith

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 Post subject: Re: IT'S HERE!!!!!
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:39 am 
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Thankyou for your response Chekika. Apologies to Hogman.

Chekika wrote:
xdcammer--Hogman did not write that. I believe it was Roller. Roller is free to write what he wants. I feel the same frustration. Some people car-top their boats (I strongly recommend against that), and they can't care less about cradles. Others have their own custom trailer, and couldn't care less about cradles.

The rest of us will have to wait for proper cradles and, probably, fashion some temp solution.

Keith



It is NOT a grumble about car topping, nothing to do with it.

I just wish the whinging will stop and initiative will begin.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:14 am 
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xdcammer wrote:
Thankyou for your response Chekika. Apologies to Hogman.

Chekika wrote:
xdcammer--Hogman did not write that. I believe it was Roller. Roller is free to write what he wants. I feel the same frustration. Some people car-top their boats (I strongly recommend against that), and they can't care less about cradles. Others have their own custom trailer, and couldn't care less about cradles.

The rest of us will have to wait for proper cradles and, probably, fashion some temp solution.

Keith



It is NOT a grumble about car topping, nothing to do with it.

I just wish the whinging will stop and initiative will begin.

XD


My initiative was to buy myself another new 2015 AI ordered September 2014 we're now at March 14 2015 .Surely in all that time Hobies 'initiative would have been to make the cradles and get them out before or at worst with the new kayaks? thats my gripe. This is not a pop at Matt he's been very helpful over the years, its at whoever is in control of 'cradles''

TBH the excitement and joyfulness of spending best part of 10k (with Hobie) on a new all bells and whistles Al has gone, the cradles are just about the icing on the cake. I had to wait months for my first AI I thought that was bad enough! And that AI was in full production..

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:59 am 
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Question--is the spacing for the cradles for the AI 2 68", or is it some other number because the hull and amas have changed??


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:42 pm 
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Chekika wrote:
xdcammer--Hogman did not write that. I believe it was Roller. Roller is free to write what he wants. I feel the same frustration. Some people car-top their boats (I strongly recommend against that), and they can't care less about cradles. Others have their own custom trailer, and couldn't care less about cradles.

The rest of us will have to wait for proper cradles and, probably, fashion some temp solution.

Keith


Thanks to Keith for pointing out that I did not write that. I was rather offended at being misquoted. :o
With the initial delays at Hobie then the wharf problems, and now our local dealer Sunstate Hobie is dealing with the aftermath of a fire, it looks like it will be at least the end of this month until I eventually get my 2015 AI.
Matt has had to deal with a lot of comments and complaints about the delivery of the AI2's, and he has done his best to keep us all informed of the progress.

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 Post subject: Re: IT'S HERE!!!!!
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:11 pm 
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Guys, the cradles will still take about 6 weeks to get here. I plan to complete the rear cradles tomorrow. With that done they will need painting and marine carpeting to make them last a bit longer.

I can send you the templates, that offer is an option for you. PM me with your postal address.

At least when you get your AIs you wil be able to transport them on your trailers till the proper cradles arrive here. It just means you will be on the water quicker, and be able to enjoy your pride and joy sooner.

I'll try and get some pix up if I can remember my Photobucket password, havn't used it in ages.

For your appreciation.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:21 am 
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I have ordered mine in late August 2014 and I still don't have mine as yet. I notice that other shops have received the first batch of the AI. just wondering whether my dealer wasn't on Hobie Aust prefer dealers. having to sold my 2013AI in September, and I am extremely not happy at all.


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 Post subject: Re: IT'S HERE!!!!!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:28 pm 
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Don, the very first AI's arrived in very limited numbers. Of the models we (SLH) have received everything that arrived had pre-sold, and we still have numerous orders to fill on our next delivery to. Could be that your dealer hasn't had a delivery come in since Islands landed. Could also be that your dealer got their order/s in after other dealers got theirs in. I am not 100% sure how Hobie AU delegate stock these days, but I'm fairly certain it's partly determined on a first-come first served basis (and little or nothing to do with preferential treatment) but when limited numbers of a certain product arrives they do usually try and delegate evenly so that all or most dealers get a bit of love. But it's not always as simple as product X has arrived today, so all stores receive product X tomorrow. Your dealership could be trying to fill a truck full of stock to make the delivery worthwhile, for example, and thats not always easy to do at the drop of a dime. From my time working with Hobie AU I can tell you that there are a lot of factors that would effect how the process works and sometimes delays into store are a result of the ordering done by the dealership (timing, quantities, etc) and not the delegation of stock from the factory

Trust me, if Hobie could have supplied every pre-sold boat in one foul swoop, they would have done it with glee.

Anyway... I'm here to tell you chaps the wait will be worth it. I took mine for a spin in Bass Strait (20 knot northerly winds) on the weekend and oh boy, this thing is god-like in comparison to the old one. Yeah, its much the same thing, but the sum-total of all of the tweaks and changes has made for a faster, more buoyancy, comfortable and responsive ride. Its drier, partly due to sitting higher (xbar knuckles don't get slammed by water as much) and the shape and volume of the bow make for very different dynamics at the front of the boat. It turns tighter, sails into the wind tighter, steering seems more responsive and the action of steering it is improved (if you use the included tiller extender). Furling is a lot smoother, due to added friction plate, pulley block and lack of friction where the sheet runs down the side of the boat. Amas have more length and volume and are harder to bury, and when they do go under they just want to come straight back up. The new seat is a perfect for for the AI to.

Oh, I also caught 3 yellowtail kingfish (hooked 4) in an area that I have fished for the past couple years and only previously hooked one. I was moving pretty quick... I think the extra speed may have made the difference.

Yes the new AI hull is a bit heavier. I barely noticed it at all. Car-topping was no harder than my other AIs. Mind you, I assemble my AI waterside, and transport the boat disassembled. The amas are a lot heavier than the earlier ones, and hauling the entire thing rigged on a wheelcart will make for more work for sure.

On that note... the amas hang down a lot when fitted off the water... so much so that they will make contact with Hobie Trax 30 wheels and make hauling even tougher (not to mention scuff the ama). Its a good idea to elevate the amas by wedging something (I used my custom paddle) under the rear akas when the amas are pulled backwards. This gives plenty of clearance. But yes... I don't plan to haul it around fully rigged anyway.

Oh... and I am yet to notice the lack of side handles, save for the fact that there was nothing scooping water into the seat well ;-)

I'll add some photos later today.

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