Hobie 18 Spinnaker Group Buy Feeler, Any Interest?

well that isn't working...

I give up!

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H18 Newbie, Too heavy for the 14

A similar thread "H18se Spinnaker Design Project" was active about a year ago, it only received 25 post but was viewed 2500 times! I would say there is quite an interest in putting Spins on H18's. viewtopic.php?f=13&t=53396 I have a hooter system as well but find the mid-pole spin setup to be much more fun.

I went with the Warren miller philosophy and love my setup.

Unofficial Top 10 Warren Miller Quotes:
1. “If you dont do it this year, you will be one year older when you do.”
2. “If at first you don’t succeed, failure may be your thing.”
3. “People weren’t made to fly, thats why we make kickers.”
4. “The best thing about skiing backwards is you can see where you’ve been.”
5. “On the other hand you have different fingers.”
6. “Don’t take life too seriously, because you can’t come out of it alive.”
7. “They say its always darkest before the dawn. So if your going to steal your neighbors newspaper… thats the time to do it.”
8. “If your parents didn’t have children, odds are you won’t either”
9. “twin tip skis have insured that todays skiers can ride backwards, as much as they can forwards, why the want to do that? i dont know…..
10. “Never eat in a restaurant that has a bowling trophy on the cash register.” – Warren Miller

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Corkguy H18, Tiger, Wildcat

Just upload it to a free place like https://imgsafe.org and then copy the image url out of the browser and put it between an [img]and[/img] tag

Said it before, I'll say it again - one design spinnaker racing class... Is there a better platform to get this going than the H18? I doubt it.

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Some comments from setting up my system this week, please feel free to post any questions or thoughts as nothing I have done involves drilling any holes.

The pole I have is aluminium, there is a plastic cap at the beam end with a hole in the middle The hole goes over a 3" pin which is screwed into a 4" rod which sits in the track on the beam. Bow end wires of the pole attach to the forestay bridle shackles. Lashing to the furler stops the pole from dropping.

Turning blocks are attached to the jib car with a short dyneema loop.

Ratchet blocks were on a loop luggage tagged to the dolphin striker rod near the hulls. I was going to just lash around the beam but spliced the lines a little on the short side. My other concern was that the lashing around the beam might move inwards and cut up the tramp so this is one area that I need to refine.

My kite has three patches which made it difficult to get into the snuffer, will be trying it next time using only the top and bottom patches.

Pulley for the retrieval line was anchored to the traveller loop on the back beam

Photos available if required

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H18 Newbie, Too heavy for the 14

Did you know that Warren Miller and Hobie Alter were next-door neighbors in the Orca Islands?

Please post if you can

Will post in a couple of weeks, away from the boat visiting the in laws

If you need any detailed photos, let me know

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H18 Newbie, Too heavy for the 14

You might try moving your Turning blocks out to the side shroud adjusters.

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Corkguy H18, Tiger, Wildcat

Throw back H18SX spin shot circa 1987 ish (me at the helm):

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Matt Miller
Former - Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Warranty and Technical Support
Hobie Cat USA
(Retired 11/7/2022)

How is that attached to the shroud?

I used the jib car so we could adjust the sheeting angle, it was best with the car all the way back but have lowered the pole for next time which will straighten the luff and change the sheeting angle.

I see the ratchet on the front beam is on a saddle, I have used dyneema loops to avoid drilling holes while we sort things out.

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H18 Newbie, Too heavy for the 14

Just a shackle then a short dyneema loop. Look at the Surf City Spinnaker video at about 29 seconds on page one of this thread.

It's not perfect angle but seams to work well.

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Corkguy H18, Tiger, Wildcat

You guys are not concerned that attaching the spinnaker block to the shroud might stress the shroud anchor bolts? Considering the track record for the H18 with bending and breaking anchor bolts, I would think any side loading on the bolts should be avoided.

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We run our Carbo 57's off the shroud extenders and turning blocks off a saddle on the front cross bar.
Just like Cork Guy.
No problems, no bent anchor pins, and only a certain amount of swimming.
The spin gives plenty of warning in gusty conditions so that we can release and not over-stress the shroud anchor pins.

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2015 H16, with spin,
SOLD 1989 Hobie SX18 Sail # 1947 "In Theory..."
'Only two things are infinite, the universe, and human stupidity. But I'm not sure about the former.'

I thought the same but at least the load will always be on the leeward side so it's never going to have a load at the same time as the shroud. I suppose if you wanted you could just drill a hole through the lip and send a loop of line around it to tie the block to.

I plan to loop my turning blocks around the front beam in the gap between the hull and tramp.